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Stojakovic
03-31-2006, 02:42 PM
What train scale would work the best with AAM? There are several scales out there like o and n... etc.
NEVjr
03-31-2006, 02:59 PM
What train scale would work the best with AAM? There are several scales out there like o and n... etc.
N is 1/160, and HO is much too big, Z is too small, but it would fit the maps better
Sean-Khan
03-31-2006, 03:20 PM
I've also thought of the same thing. Model trains just seem to be pretty expensive, so I don't know yet if I'll build some of my own or do them at all.
1:160 feels pretty small - I guess there isn't ready sizes between those?
Stojakovic, care to tell what you're planning - for scenario use or just as terrain elements? I'm curious :)
JuKaBaLa
03-31-2006, 03:26 PM
The 'TT' train scale is 1/120. I think that scale is most commun in Europe
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Uncle_Joe
03-31-2006, 03:54 PM
I think it would depend if you want them scaled to the infantry or the vehicles.
Stojakovic
03-31-2006, 04:43 PM
I've also thought of the same thing. Model trains just seem to be pretty expensive, so I don't know yet if I'll build some of my own or do them at all.
1:160 feels pretty small - I guess there isn't ready sizes between those?
Stojakovic, care to tell what you're planning - for scenario use or just as terrain elements? I'm curious :)
you will see in about 2 weeks. Making something special. I will get my train in about 4 weeks.
komichido
03-31-2006, 04:59 PM
Fine! I am going into the future and finding out.
BRB
Komi :D
My guess is Stoyo's doing a Von Ryans Express Custom Italian campaign
FNG-out
Stojakovic
03-31-2006, 07:41 PM
My guess is Stoyo's doing a Von Ryans Express Custom Italian campaign
FNG-out
Nope.
SS troops are going to rob the vodka train.
Stojakovic
03-31-2006, 09:14 PM
anyone know where I can get a engine that does not cost 300 bones?
JuKaBaLa
04-01-2006, 03:59 AM
Itīs no diference between the scales. 15mm is 1/120 as 6mm is 1/300.
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Stojakovic
04-01-2006, 05:02 AM
so is z scale 1/300th scale? I am leaning more twords that since it seems it will fit the map better.
Anpu42
04-01-2006, 05:04 AM
Try looking in the $1.00 stores.
Some of those realy cheezy toy trains [and other things] can come close to scale
Muenchausen
04-01-2006, 01:15 PM
so is z scale 1/300th scale? I am leaning more twords that since it seems it will fit the map better.
Hope your job pays well cause Z scale is very expensive.
Joisey
04-01-2006, 05:57 PM
Battle Group New Jersey is putting together a scenario for our April 30th meet which will involve a German resupply train that will bring in reinforcements for the Axis (if it gets through). We plan to use N scale.
The train will spend the first part of the scenario on it's own seperate map, where it will be deemed to be "moving" a set distance each turn. Eventually it will get to the AAM map (this will be our combined 12' x 8' Kallistra terrain) where a station and loading dock will be defended by the Axis forces waiting for the reinforcements. Before arrival, the train will be subject to attack by allied air assets and defended by German air assets and AA mounted to a flatbed in front of the locomotive. We haven't worked out yet what sort of defense rating we'll give the locomotive, but we may deem the locomotive as having applique armor welded on to give the Germans a sporting chance. Also, we will let AA fire abort the attackers' air attacks, again to give the Germans hope of being able to defend the train.
We'll post pix in May. Till then, Cheers! :)
JuKaBaLa
04-01-2006, 07:17 PM
The Z Scale is 1/220.
There is a basic diference in train scale and wargaming scale. The trains scale is base on the gauge of rails(the distance between the internal face of rails) and gaming and dioramas miniatures arebase in th man stature (or something like this, it's not a stardart padron), and number like 1/144 or 1/100 or other for veicles and structs. These scales have a function to uncomplex the miniturizing process. For human figures, the 15mm scale is better than 1/120, because a single man must have a 15mm (+/-) of height. These is easy than the man must have 5 feets and 8 inches divided by 120...
For these simplification a enormous discution have ecloded, some says the 15mm is for the hight of men from foot to he eye top and other things like this. Itīs ridiculous and there is no way do rely make a real medium man who has a mediun representation of a medium stature of tremedous ethinic world...
So, the numbered scales is for vehicles and structures, wich is more easy to be done by dimensioning the miniature by a single division.
The trains miniature a so accurate o their scales (in other cases their donīt stay on rails...) and those scales are padronized almost on the gauge size. Bust exists a lot of maufctures who make the gauge on scale but the entire mini totaly out of scale.
The triain minitures are vere expensive by their nature of materials, fine finishings and motors and others mecanical and eleronical stuffs.
I hope help a bit.
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Stojakovic
04-01-2006, 07:23 PM
How long are N scale trains (in inches) how long are the Z scale trains (in inches) just a estimate would be good. I gon't know much about model trains... other than they are trains :D ..... DUH
Stojakovic
04-01-2006, 07:27 PM
The Z Scale is 1/220.
There is a basic diference in train scale and wargaming scale. The trains scale is base on the gauge of rails(the distance between the internal face of rails) and gaming and dioramas miniatures arebase in th man stature (or something like this, it's not a stardart padron), and number like 1/144 or 1/100 or other for veicles and structs. These scales have a function to uncomplex the miniturizing process. For human figures, the 15mm scale is better than 1/120, because a single man must have a 15mm (+/-) of height. These is easy than the man must have 5 feets and 8 inches divided by 120...
For these simplification a enormous discution have ecloded, some says the 15mm is for the hight of men from foot to he eye top and other things like this. Itīs ridiculous and there is no way do rely make a real medium man who has a mediun representation of a medium stature of tremedous ethinic world...
So, the numbered scales is for vehicles and structures, wich is more easy to be done by dimensioning the miniature by a single division.
The trains miniature a so accurate o their scales (in other cases their donīt stay on rails...) and those scales are padronized almost on the gauge size. Bust exists a lot of maufctures who make the gauge on scale but the entire mini totaly out of scale.
The triain minitures are vere expensive by their nature of materials, fine finishings and motors and others mecanical and eleronical stuffs.
I hope help a bit.
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I need a aspirin.
Thanks. THat helped a bit from what I got out of it N scale is the way to go. I wonder if AH will ever be willing to make a train for us to by so we can use in scenarios... not in a booster just a train you can by in a package.
Stoj, you could get a matchbox train or somesuch. I remember I once had a train like this that was real cheap, the scale was about right too.. give or take one or 2 mm.
Muenchausen
04-01-2006, 09:14 PM
Stojo, tried to e-mail you and the ebay function is down. I will try again tomorrow. Don't get all bent out of shape trying to decide between the scale or guage. If you want the size of the engine to match the tanks, you need TTscale. Its not a perfect match but, It's as close as your going to get. The auction I'm trying to send you is for a model of steam engine that's slightly larger than TT(1:120). Its 1:131 scale. If your more interested in trains and track that will match the scale of the maps, your out of luck. They don't make anything that small that you coul use. Z scale would be too large and in my opinion too expensive. You may stumble across cheap train toys someplace, if your lucky.
Stojakovic
04-01-2006, 09:45 PM
Well I had one of those things called a brain fart. I realized I did not have to make the maps 2'' I will be making them 4'' hexes rather than the 2''. So I think N scale would fit in it. I just wish some one could post a pic Of the different train sizes to the soldiers and tanks (just not the hell cat) it does not have to be perfect just close or so it can fit into a hex. So I am going to rest on it and go down to the local train store and see what they look like if they have that scale at all.
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