Ummmm...how do you train a Hero?

[Porter]

We talked and talked,we debated and argued................

The Subject: The New Hero preview, and how it would affect our games which are historical scenarios.(mostly)

The room was divided, and after 30 minutes of discussing,... a brilliant question.

A country can train a tank crew, an infantry squad, an engineer ..how does a country go about training a Hero?..Heros are made or forged in battle.. not trained aren't they? :confused:

We sat ..we listened, we decided, we voted...No Hero in our games

We sat and played in the comfort of a democratic decision, as a Panzer IV D Elite rolled ten successes (no number less than 3!!!) on my T34/76, in the forest....I failed cover..T34/76 destroyed..."What I need is a Hero" I mutterred as I returned fire.

[Tico303]

Forged in combat - right, you can't train 'em.

How about this one: If one of your soldiers rolls only successes on an attack roll against an enemy unit and at least disrupts it, you may put a hero in a hex adjacent to this soldier. :-)

[tragicmishap]

For free? I would think that would be so rare an occurrence that you should get it for free if that happened.

[polish_horsy]

well you have 30-60 seconds to train 'em and teleport 'em since each turn is 1 minute. i won't be using them i know that. WWII the Gathering does not appeal to me.

[Porter]

well you have 30-60 seconds to train 'em and teleport 'em since each turn is 1 minute. .

This is my point :) , I am believe the cost of a unit reflects in part the "resources" that a country would expend in acquiring and training the unit, and placing it on the battle field. Hence why we don't have low cost king tigers, because to build a masive tank of that caliber requires a large amount of resources.

You cannot "pre select a hero", heros are made in battle. No General walks around the parade ground and yells " You see that fine squad: That's a bunch of heros suit them up accordingly and them deployed as Heros. There no longer Thompson Submachine Gunners, their Heros dagnabit.

[Tico303]

WWII the Gathering does not appeal to me.

Gotcha, WotC! :D

[Predator666]

I think they made it so its a single soldier that breaks out from a squad and is so called "forged in battle". Thats why he starts into or adjacent or w/e to an allied soldier.

[polish_horsy]

but he suddenly takes on the fighting ability of an entire elite squad?

[GrimJesta]

well you have 30-60 seconds to train 'em and teleport 'em since each turn is 1 minute. i won't be using them i know that. WWII the Gathering does not appeal to me.

LOL, amen to that.

-=Grim=-

[Zhukov]

Your all wrong. I swear somewhere it said in the heat of battles heros emerge out. Lets say in a hex you got an M1 Garand, one of the men in teh squad is 1337 lololol11!one! so he is really strong and heroic so he is seperated from the swuad by his hero marker cause hes so strong he needs his own unit. Thus you can say in your battles randomy, theres a hero i nthis unit battalion so you place your hero there.

[Zhukov]

but he suddenly takes on the fighting ability of an entire elite squad?
Yes he does, thats why its insane and the term WWII the Gathering fits.

[rebelyell]

but he suddenly takes on the fighting ability of an entire elite squad?

Its happened before. Off the top off my head I can think of Major John Pelham holding off a Union brigade at Fredericksburg with two horse cannons.

Or Nathan Bedford Forrest charging the Union lines at Fallen Timbers all by himself?

Or how about the Spartans at Thermopylae?

OR!! A better one! Did you see Band of Brothers when the Captain ran up to the hill with all the Germans behind it, thinking his entire team, who hadn't caught up, was with him, and just started banging away at the Germans by himself? I think that was a true story..

[Stojakovic]

how does a country go about training a Hero?..Heros are made or forged in battle.. not trained aren't they? :confused:



Make him read murphys law of combat several times... then get him drunk and send him into battle.

[Colonel_Coo]

Its happened before. Off the top off my head I can think of Major John Pelham holding off a Union brigade at Fredericksburg with two horse cannons.

Or Nathan Bedford Forrest charging the Union lines at Fallen Timbers all by himself?

Or how about the Spartans at Thermopylae?

OR!! A better one! Did you see Band of Brothers when the Captain ran up to the hill with all the Germans behind it, thinking his entire team, who hadn't caught up, was with him, and just started banging away at the Germans by himself? I think that was a true story..
Yup, that's the nature of it.

[horacus]

I you don't like the heroes don't use it. There will be persons that will buy them in Ebay.
I only hope that the game will continue and no more Enormous mistakes will be made.

Hope dies at last.

Horacus.

[Porter]

Its happened before. Off the top off my head I can think of Major John Pelham holding off a Union brigade at Fredericksburg with two horse cannons.

Or Nathan Bedford Forrest charging the Union lines at Fallen Timbers all by himself?

Or how about the Spartans at Thermopylae?

OR!! A better one! Did you see Band of Brothers when the Captain ran up to the hill with all the Germans behind it, thinking his entire team, who hadn't caught up, was with him, and just started banging away at the Germans by himself? I think that was a true story..

I would agree that these were all "heroic actions, BUT they all have one thing in common...ALL incidents were Veteran Troops that were in the field, for many Years. Pelham, and Forrest had seen many large scale battles, The 300 Spartan Hoplites were the King of Sparta elite guard that deployed in a pass were no more than 6 to 8 men could pass at a time, and Capt Winters, had jumped at D-Day, destroyed the 105's at Brecourt, and fought at Caratan,. But until the battle was joined No one knew how these guys would react. Even themselves..To quote Winters "I was not a hero, but I served in a company of them."