TO WOTC: Early Gallery for Set IV

[Aries]

To give a little more assurance to the pre-order folks who are still on the fence (like me) how about WOTC publish the entire gallery of units tomorrow (do not need the cards, just the units) so we can see the level of QA for the rest of what we are ordering blind.

If WOTC would do this, I would think some of us may be more inclined to believe WOTC will make good on the Spitfire exchange IMHO.

[Zhukov]

Id like to see the Set 4 gallery early! I cant wait for Fallschirmjagers I think they are called.

[Kulgan]

Actually it's Fallschirmjäger. Mind the ¨ ( ümlaut ) on top of the a

As for proper pronounciation :

I'll asume your mother tongue is English?

Fallschirmjäger should be pronounced f - Hall - sch - e- rm - jager ( as in jay-ger without the y offcourse )

I hope this was or helpfull or a good laugh :)

[Kommandant]

Actually it's Fallschirmjäger. Mind the ¨ ( ümlaut ) on top of the a

As for proper pronounciation :

I'll asume your mother tongue is English?

Fallschirmjäger should be pronounced f - Hall - sch - e- rm - jager ( as in jay-ger without the y offcourse )

I hope this was or helpfull or a good laugh :)

or you can type it as Fallschirmjaeger :D it's the same thing

and for the topic on hand
i would also like to see an early release of the gallery

[Kriegshund]

Actually it's Fallschirmjäger. Mind the ¨ ( ümlaut ) on top of the a

This might be funny. I have absolutely no idea how to add an "umlaut" with my keyboard. Do I need a super special secret decoder keyboard to manage it?

[Stojakovic]

This might be funny. I have absolutely no idea how to add an "umlaut" with my keyboard. Do I need a super special secret decoder keyboard to manage it?

you can download programs online to type in other languages.

[Kommandant]

This might be funny. I have absolutely no idea how to add an "umlaut" with my keyboard. Do I need a super special secret decoder keyboard to manage it?

if you want you can add an "e" instead of having the too dots on top

for example:
Götterdämmerung is the same as Goetterdaemmerung

this works for most of those letters

[fifleche]

This might be funny. I have absolutely no idea how to add an "umlaut" with my keyboard. Do I need a super special secret decoder keyboard to manage it?Yes, an exotic program like Windows :rolleyes:

Just look in "language options" and see what surprises await there!

:D

[Kriegshund]

Thank you gentlemen. Now that my ignorance of the mysteries of the ümlaut has been corrected.....

I must say that we have about as much chance to see the full Set IV Gallery this soon before release as we do to see a new Spitfire sculpt in 6 months....in other words.....nil.

[Tico303]

for example:
Götterdämmerung is the same as Goetterdaemmerung



And Hauptsturmführer is the same as Hauptsturmfuehrer, but not the same as Haupsturmführer :D

[MektonZero]

To give a little more assurance to the pre-order folks who are still on the fence (like me) how about WOTC publish the entire gallery of units tomorrow (do not need the cards, just the units) so we can see the level of QA for the rest of what we are ordering blind.

If WOTC would do this, I would think some of us may be more inclined to believe WOTC will make good on the Spitfire exchange IMHO.

Spitfire exchange? Where exactly did they promise that?

[Zhukov]

Actually it's Fallschirmjäger. Mind the ¨ ( ümlaut ) on top of the a

As for proper pronounciation :

I'll asume your mother tongue is English?

Fallschirmjäger should be pronounced f - Hall - sch - e- rm - jager ( as in jay-ger without the y offcourse )

I hope this was or helpfull or a good laugh :)
Whoa. Im 14 I dont get to even start a foreign language until next year, I choose German so I have a head start. I know about it from typing the word Fuhrer online before and getting you should say it Fuehrer, and proably other things. Also, yes my mother tongue is English.

PS I bet Im wrong about the Fuhrer thing too.

[Kommandant]

Whoa. Im 14 I dont get to even start a foreign language until next year, I choose German so I have a head start. I know about it from typing the word Fuhrer online before and getting you should say it Fuehrer, and proably other things. Also, yes my mother tongue is English.

PS I bet Im wrong about the Fuhrer thing too.

actually the fuehrer thing is right
führer=fuehrer

[Predator666]

I would love to see a gallery of it. And then curse it because I would be wondering what everything was. I might be buying a case. I might have to wait though cuz I am broke and haven't got a job yet.Krap...

[Kriegshund]

Spitfire exchange? Where exactly did they promise that?

Mons had this to say in the sticky thread above (http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=11808&page=12&pp=10):

Since HFE gave us the wrong model, we are getting a new, correct, model done and we are discussing ways to get the correct Spitfire into print, but understand that this is long process, typically 6 months or more.

Not exactly a "promise". Im not holding my breath.

[Bobsalt]

Not exactly a "promise". Im not holding my breath.

I don't like saying this, but I'm afraid I have a bit of an issue with their credibility here as well. AT 5:59 PM on 9/15/05, this is what we were told about the Hellcat:

This was an obvious error that we caught too late in the production cycle. The model was corrected and most of the figures are being produced to the right scale, but the initial batch of M18 Hellcats are indeed too large. :eek:

It was due to Wizards giving the wrong measurements and not being caught on the QC check. The production people assured me that an error of this scale was a product of a shortened production length and is quite unlikely to happen again.
http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.phpt=5627&page=2&pp=10&highlight=Hellcat

I have two questions.

1) Anyone seen a correctly scaled Hellcat? I believe WotC Bob said he had a correctly scaled model (pre-production?) on his desk, but I haven't heard of anyone pulling one out of a booster yet. One thought - given their superficial resemblance to one another, do you suppose what he had at his desk was a Jackson from Set III and not a correctly scaled Hellcat?

2) "The production people assured me that an error of this scale was a product of a shortened production length and is quite unlikely to happen again." Apparently it's not as unlikely after all, since each of the following two sets had incorrectly scaled units.

When looking at these two factors, I am extremely sceptical about seeing a Spitfire anytime soon. As you say, I wouldn't hold my breath. From their posts, WotC Bob and Mons seem like good enough guys who care about the game. Unfortunately, the ultimate decisons aren't being made by them.

[horacus]

An early galery will be ok, but now, I really don't care more about.

[komichido]

Krieg...I am but a child in your presence..your prose, your wit...arrgh...you slay me redlegs! :D

Love the sig....

Komi

[Stojakovic]

Actually the hellcat is to scale and the rest are out of scale. Someone on here (don't remember who) plays FOW and said it was a near perfect match and the rest were a different size. And FoW is a more true 15mm model and this game is/was to be 15mm... so send in every piece except the hell cat :D

[Lotus]

Yer a sick man, Stoj. :rolleyes:

[Bobsalt]

Yer a sick man, Stoj. :rolleyes:
Actually, no he isn't, not at all. The A&AM Hellcats are at true 15mm scale - the other vehicles (except other ones that are out of scale) are slightly smaller - about 12 mm if I recall. A US FOW player will probably be glad to buy any A&AM Hellcats you don't want. They won't be quite as good of course - the FOW sculpts blow the A&AM ones out of the water, while some of the A&AM ones just...blow. (Sorry, couldn't resist - I'll behave now :D )

If I knew how to paint I would never have bought A&AM - it would have been FOW all the way, even though I was a VERY enthusiastic evangelist for A&AM the first couple of months (READ - before Set II came out). Looking at where A&AM appears to be going, I wish I had spent the money I spent on A&AM on painting lessons...

[Autarch]

Posting a gallery is only going to hurt sales if any obvious scale/quality problems appear though it would be hard to tell scale problems without points of refrences.

Personally I am at a point that if I would have seen the Spitschmitt before I'd have preordered my two cases, I would have held off from ordering until I could have seen the full gallery to make sure there wasn't a Hell Panzer of an elite SS Sherman.

[Argyle]

I think that avalon should consider releasing pictures off all units right away. But they might have more even worse surprises up their sleeves and dont want to loose all our preorders... If they care about preorder sales they should release pictures to calm down the community, this would also draw back all those who left and create a big hype and guessgame about stats. If avanlon don´t care about the community and think that heir product sell anyway they could relase one och twice broken/repainted units a week until release day and not not release an errata.

Give the community an errata now.
Get your grip togheter and sell products with alot higher quality. Don´t blame it on some contractor, that isn´t professional.
Please calm down the community.

[Xzuatl]

Actually, WoTC should post the gallery only in this forum. Since some here think that we are such a insignificant portion of their overall market, giving us a heads up won't affect their profits one way or the other. :)

[OtterSC]

i do not think they should post all of the units now. they will in about 2 weeks when the set is release just like the other sets.

could this be paranoia setting in? it is one obvious piece that was missed by QC that there is this "demand" to show all the cards. whether they show it now or later, it is really a matter of wondering if one should preorder or cancel the preorder of the set.

[Vulturedoodle]

1) Anyone seen a correctly scaled Hellcat? I believe WotC Bob said he had a correctly scaled model (pre-production?) on his desk, but I haven't heard of anyone pulling one out of a booster yet. One thought - given their superficial resemblance to one another, do you suppose what he had at his desk was a Jackson from Set III and not a correctly scaled Hellcat?

Here's the photo WotC Bob posted. The message is at:

http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=8876&page=2

Perhaps someone could take a real one and compare it to the Stuka, which we now have as reference.

--SEF

[Xartloz]

Here's the photo WotC Bob posted. The message is at:

http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=8876&page=2

Perhaps someone could take a real one and compare it to the Stuka, which we now have as reference.

--SEF

So they have the correct scale and its close to 6 months now aint it? So when can we exchange our badly sized Hellcats to a real one ... or is someone in WotC also skilled in photoshop so its another attempt to fool thier customers ... sadly .. with the amount of coins I have used on AAM, I could have had a very nice UK army in Flames of War !!

[Bobsalt]

... with the amount of coins I have used on AAM, I could have had a very nice UK army in Flames of War !!
Please do me a favor and don't ever say that again. I've had this same thought a lot lately when it comes to the quality of the miniatures. A&AM has been fun to play, but when I think of the FOW forces I could have had and even sent to Panzerpainter to paint for me and what they could have looked like for less than what I have in A&AM...it kind of makes me sick to think about.

[Kriegshund]

Komichido!, I was actually a little disappointed that nobody noticed my attempt at clever finesse as opposed to my usual thundering and thrashing about. I guess it takes a fellow sophisticate Artilleryman to appreciate my evocation of good 'ole Shakespeare (even though I did take on the part of Juliet and trampled all over Will's play :o )

Semper Fi Bro.....

Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
Shall cumber all the parts of Italy ;
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war!

Artillery...Ultima ratio regum (the final argument of Kings)

[Bobsalt]

All right, let me take a crack at this…

“But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?
It is the Spitfire, coming out of the sun
Dive, oh sun, and kill the envious 109…”

[Kriegshund]

Please do me a favor and don't ever say that again. I've had this same thought a lot lately when it comes to the quality of the miniatures. A&AM has been fun to play, but when I think of the FOW forces I could have had and even sent to Panzerpainter to paint for me and what they could have looked like for less than what I have in A&AM...it kind of makes me sick to think about.

OMG Bobsalt its a friggen epidemic but I am haunted by this thought as well. 3 to 5 cases worth of EACH set of AAM so far could have been the equivalent of how many beautifully panzerpainted FOW minis? It makes be break out in a nasueated cold sweat. The ONLY reason I stayed away from FOW is the perceived expense and painting. I think my perception was flawed......and I mourn for it.

[Kriegshund]

All right, let me take a crack at this…

“But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?
It is the Spitfire, coming out of the sun
Dive, oh sun, and kill the envious 109…”

Outstanding!!

[fifleche]

To maintain the preorders of my customers, I had to offer them a "bail out" if the set contains another screw-up :(

Morale is pretty low here.

[PatrickWR]

Fifleche, I'm curious -- do you feel obligated to tell customers who don't frequent these forums about the egregious errors we as a community keep harping on?

I only ask because I never did the internet forums thing for Heroclix -- I just took each expansion as they came, buying the stuff, never bothering to get ****** or anything.

There are probably a LOT of AAM players out there who do the exact same thing and still consider themselves wargamers.

[Uncle_Joe]

When I managed one of the WotC retail stores we always told my customers of flaws that we had uncovered in various games but we let them make their own decision from there. The trust we built up with our regular customers went a long way to having them come back again and again and even pay slightly higher prices at the store rather than going online. There is just no substitute for that kind of goodwill and trust and its a shame that WotC Corporate and/or Hasbro can't see that.

[Xartloz]

When I managed one of the WotC retail stores we always told my customers of flaws that we had uncovered in various games but we let them make their own decision from there. The trust we built up with our regular customers went a long way to having them come back again and again and even pay slightly higher prices at the store rather than going online. There is just no substitute for that kind of goodwill and trust and its a shame that WotC Corporate and/or Hasbro can't see that.

Thats the basic teaching every salesmen should learn if you ask me .. Where I work we have a hughe amount of regular customers that could just as easy find most of thier products cheaper online or in some cheap discount shop .. they come to us because of the service and the honesty ... if we buy a shipment of too low quality items we rather throw it in the dumpster than to sell it to our customers .. heck I even doubt we would be able to get most of the workers in the shop to sell it anyway.

[fifleche]

Fifleche, I'm curious -- do you feel obligated to tell customers who don't frequent these forums about the egregious errors we as a community keep harping on?

I only ask because I never did the internet forums thing for Heroclix -- I just took each expansion as they came, buying the stuff, never bothering to get ****** or anything.

There are probably a LOT of AAM players out there who do the exact same thing and still consider themselves wargamers.If I am asked by the customer "what do you think about xxx", then YES, I give them my "honest joe" opinion. After all, I may be a FLGS manager by day, but I am a Wargamer by night, and these are the ppl I play with...

[CdtWeasel]

Mons had this to say in the sticky thread above (http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=11808&page=12&pp=10):



Not exactly a "promise". Im not holding my breath.


nothing about an exchange there. Rather putting the correct models in production. If there is a reprint of set 1 or D-day that is when we would see the correct models show up, no money in giving/exchanging minis for free.

[Joisey]

Okay, my turn now at paraphrasing Shakespeare:

To buy, or not to buy Set IV: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous recycled minis,
Or to take legal action against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end the game? To let it die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That Buyer's Remorse is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die as a wargamer, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this error-prone publisher,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so many a Grognard;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of minis in the wrong scale,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's large cash investment,
The pangs of despised paint jobs, the law's delay if a class action suit were filed,
The insolence of company management and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardel a poorly molded Pzr IV D,
To grunt and sweat to remove flashing under a blurry turret,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country, Flames of War, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have from Wizards of the Coast
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus lack of modelling ability does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And Tournament Builds of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.-- Soft you now!
The fair and womanly Fanatical Sniper! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd.

[Kriegshund]

I bow in reverence, Joisey. My little diddy has been o'er shadowed....well done!

[OldBloodandGuts]

Bravo, Joisey. As someone making a career in literature, I can say it's nice to see that Shakespeare is still relevant...

Why do I have a feeling the Mel Gibson version would still suck though? :)

Now who can do one with the St. Crispin's Day speech (V Henry, 4.3) that Ambrose got his "Band of Brothers" title from?

[Sharpe]

I'm not sure that we qualify as either "few" or "happy."

[komichido]

That he which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart with his Messcherspit, his flight path shall be free, and fuel a plenty put in his tank.
We would not die in that mans company that flies that schpit in spite of us.
This day is called the feast of Grognards:
He that shall see it gone; and speak of it no more, will stand with pride when this day is named, and rouse with his fellows in rejoice of the new Spit!
He that will pull the new spit, with elliptical wings, will yearly on the vigil fly it with pride, And say "we banned the poser, and called for the true sculpt"
Then the wargamers who stood together will strip thy sleeves and show thy scars, And say "We would not play on Grognard Day"
Old men forget; as it will be forgot, never to fly on our tables again, and we will remember with vigor how we bannish such rubbish from our sight: then shall our names, harangued as whiners, Kriegshund, Joisey and fifleche, PatrickWR and others, be in their flowing cups freshly remembered for saving the Spit!
This story shall the good man teach his son, about demanding resolution, and corporate injustices, little men balking at the mighty company, with slurs of whiner and such thrown his way. But we in it shall be remembered;
We few, we happy few, we Band of brothers; for he today that demands what is right and stands shoulder to shoulder to insist on quality Shall be my brother! :D

[MektonZero]

I'm not sure that we qualify as either "few" or "happy."

"We few, we happy few; we band of buggered." - Rupert Giles

That about sum it up for you? :D

I'm sure we've all heard the story about Reichmarshal Hermann Goering asking Luftwaffe fighter commander Adolf Galland if there was anything he wanted. To Goering’s consternation, he answered, "Yes, a squadron of Spitfires.

But this, this is ridiculous.

[TomServo]

Bravo, Joisey. As someone making a career in literature, I can say it's nice to see that Shakespeare is still relevant...

Why do I have a feeling the Mel Gibson version would still suck though? :)

Now who can do one with the St. Crispin's Day speech (V Henry, 4.3) that Ambrose got his "Band of Brothers" title from?

I would think the opening soliloqy from Richard III would be more appropriate. ;)

[40roundsready]

Great.....awesome another thread about(gasp!) the unacceptable spitfire and the oversized Hellcat! I should start a thread about cute and fuzzy kittens and wait 5 seconds for someone to start ranting about Wotc Spitfire betrayal. Point made over and over and over guys about the minis :rolleyes: I would like to see the gallery for the D-Day set as well but for more positive reasons like anticipation........

[fifleche]

I'm sure we've all heard the story about Reichmarshal Hermann Goering asking Luftwaffe fighter commander Adolf Galland if there was anything he wanted. To Goering’s consternation, he answered, "Yes, a squadron of Spitfires.Goering: What would you need, for the Aldertag?
Galland: A squadron of spitfires, Herr Reichmarshal! :D
Goering: (thinks a few moments, and then answers) Okay, I guess I can let you have some... (shows planes to Galland) Happy now? Now go win the fight for the Fatherland!
Galland: But these are not Spitfires, mein Herr! They are Messerschmitts! :(
Goering: Yes, they are so! Look! They are painted as Spitfires, therefore, they must be Spitfires!

[ArmyVet]

40roundsready - I couldn't agree with you more! anticipation ..... it's a killer. :p I want to see what the rest of the set holds for us.

[Vulturedoodle]

Gak! Where's the "Ignore this thread" button?!? I keep accidentally wandering in here and stumbling onto this...hmmm, how do I describe it? Oh, yeah: execrable poetry. Can the owner of the thread please rename it "Danger, Will Robinson!"?

:) SEF

[Kriegshund]

Outstanding Komi! We Band of brothers, indeed!! And now as further requested....sorry V-diddy....

Now is the Winter of the Spitfires discontent.....

Cheated of feature by incompetent QC,
Deformed, unfinished, sent before my time
Into this Opening Salvo scarce half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That the AAM forum barks at me as I halt by them -
Why I, in this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to spy my shadow in the sun
And descant on mine own deformity.
And therefore, since I cannot prove a Spitfire
To entertain these rude poorly-spoken posters,
I am determined to prove a villain
And hate the idle pleasures of this game.
Plots have I laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels, and dreams,
To set my brother A&AM Gamers
In deadly hate the one against the other..

[Kriegshund]

Can the owner of the thread please rename it "Danger, Will Robinson!"?

:) SEF

You mean "Danger, Will Shakespeare!"

[komichido]

Krieg well done ole chap! hehe....we seem to have a knack for butchering Will's work....but we do it so cleverly....indeed! Shall another venture into this bowl of drival and render forth a speech with merit, with reason...who else amoung us shall stand upon their self made pedestal and cry out in indignation....for justice....ney...for....our amusement..lol..who shall it be?

Perhaps some Frederick Nietze would be nice.....my supermen of A&AM.


Komi out!

[7thBeachBattalion]

:D

Hillarious

[whitewind]

Id like to see the Set 4 gallery early! I cant wait for Fallschirmjagers I think they are called.

I'm just glad is won't be a "Chuck Yeager" Ledgendary Pilot... LOL... Oh no...Set 5....... :confused:

[Jay_Gatsby]

Id like to see the Set 4 gallery early! I cant wait for Fallschirmjagers I think they are called.

Fallschirmjaegers are a myth. Never existed, nope, nada, zip, zero. The only countries that had paratroopers in WWII (and indeed, in all of history) were America, England and Japan. Of these it is widely accepted that the American paratroops, who were all known as "Screaming Eagles", were the best ever.

The British were like Americans except they lacked the fighting spirit and/or gumption to continue fighting over prolonged periods of time. This is why they lost to a bunch of German kids and old men in Arnhem. This had nothing to do with SS Panzer Divisions, as shown in the highly innaccurate movie "A Bridge Too Far".

The Japanese SNLF paratroopers did nothing, ever.

In recent years, there has been a growing myth that the Germans were the first to use paratroops to invade the fictional island of "Crete". Anybody who needs proof that these legends are false needs only to translate the word "Fallschirmjaeger" into English. It literally means "gullible".

That is all.

[komichido]

was that an attempt at being funny?

Komi

[Jay_Gatsby]

Boy, tough crowd. It was a sarcastic take on the fact that it often seems that our fair game has an American bias. Whether it does or not is up to you. Just trying to inject some humor into what has been a bad week for the boards.

At least it's not an entire thread devoted to fecal jokes.

[NEVjr]

an awful big one, the british seem to get under rated guns more often then they should (6lbr, 17lbr) and americans get amazing howitzers (priest, sherman 105) that are more powerful then german guns with shells twice as big (sig, brummbar)

the 25lbr will come out with AI dice lower then the basic sherman, even if it was as good or better then the american 105, just wait

[TomServo]

an awful big one, the british seem to get under rated guns more often then they should (6lbr, 17lbr) and americans get amazing howitzers (priest, sherman 105) that are more powerful then german guns with shells twice as big (sig, brummbar)

the 25lbr will come out with AI dice lower then the basic sherman, even if it was as good or better then the american 105, just wait

And the Firefly will get completely gutted.

[komichido]

Jay,

lol...sorry man, I get your humor. I guess when I first read it I was like what the hell is this guy talking about...lol....sarcasm yeah I get it. Doh. Blockhead award for me.

Komi

[Joisey]

That he which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart with his Messcherspit, his flight path shall be free, and fuel a plenty put in his tank.
We would not die in that mans company that flies that schpit in spite of us.
This day is called the feast of Grognards:
He that shall see it gone; and speak of it no more, will stand with pride when this day is named, and rouse with his fellows in rejoice of the new Spit!
He that will pull the new spit, with elliptical wings, will yearly on the vigil fly it with pride, And say "we banned the poser, and called for the true sculpt"
Then the wargamers who stood together will strip thy sleeves and show thy scars, And say "We would not play on Grognard Day"
Old men forget; as it will be forgot, never to fly on our tables again, and we will remember with vigor how we bannish such rubbish from our sight: then shall our names, harangued as whiners, Kriegshund, Joisey and fifleche, PatrickWR and others, be in their flowing cups freshly remembered for saving the Spit!
This story shall the good man teach his son, about demanding resolution, and corporate injustices, little men balking at the mighty company, with slurs of whiner and such thrown his way. But we in it shall be remembered;
We few, we happy few, we Band of brothers; for he today that demands what is right and stands shoulder to shoulder to insist on quality Shall be my brother! :D
I am NOT crying after reading that.....really, that's just some dust in my eyes, I tell you! ;)

Bravo!