Regarding in what order to shoot lasers in special cases....

[Andy_B]

Hello gamefriends...

Last night we played Roborally for the second night ever. And there was some arguing about some stuff. In some situations that occured we had to understand in what order you shoot as a robot.

- If for example I do a push with a special option card instead of shoot with laser do that pushed robot shoot from his new position?

- And if that pushed robot suddenly stands in another robots line of sight does the pushed robot get shot by this robot?

When it comes to decide what optioncard has priority I have understood that it depends on the starting point on the dock. Does this startingpoint also decide what laser is shot first? Or is the lasers priority decided by the highest number on the movementcard last drawn?

-Last question i want to now is that if youre allowed to have used several optioncards during same turn? One on register 1, the second on register 2 for example.

[boylermaker]

As far as lasers go, my guess would be that they (and tractor beams, etc) all fire simultaneously, so that the target bot fires from his original position and is hit by any lasers that cross his original position, but not by those that cross only his new position.

[Andy_B]

...but lets say that a robot pushed by the pressor beam option card didnt have an enemy in sight on his original position and on the new position he has. Does he shoot then?

[mk31bolo]

I'd say no. His laser fired at the exact same time as the pressor beam. So by the time he's in his new position, he's already fired. This also means that laser fire that crosses his new position will have already been fired as well, so he takes no damage (from lasers) in his new position, as boylermaker as already said. :)

[Andy_B]

cool makes sense...

[boylermaker]

You guys have the idea. (Though it must be repeated that this is just speculation on my part.)

[iiiHuman]

Last night we played Roborally for the second night ever. And there was some arguing about some stuff. In some situations that occured we had to understand in what order you shoot as a robot.

- If for example I do a push with a special option card instead of shoot with laser do that pushed robot shoot from his new position?

- And if that pushed robot suddenly stands in another robots line of sight does the pushed robot get shot by this robot?

- When it comes to decide what optioncard has priority I have understood that it depends on the starting point on the dock. Does this startingpoint also decide what laser is shot first? Or is the lasers priority decided by the highest number on the movementcard last drawn?
All Laser fire (including board lasers and robot lasers) happen at the same time. Options that replace laser fire also happen at the same time that the laser fire would have happened. So, a robot will give and receive laser fire from its original square even if being moved by an Option.

I have also contacted customer service (http://www.wizards.com/customerservice) on this and similar issues and their official answer is also that you would count laser fire from the original square before it moved. This includes laser fire the robot gives as well as receives.

One possible way that might help you think about it, is to consider laser fire as traveling so fast that it happens a split-second before any movement from kinetic type weapons.

Even better, consider that it takes a moment for a robot to be completed moved (pushed, pulled, etc). So, by the time a robot has finished being moved by an Option, it will have also already taken damage from a laser pulse since you consider lasers and Options as "starting" at the same time.

As an alternative suggestion, since "movement-weapons" happen at the same time as all laser fire, you could possibly have a "home rule" that says the robot being moved will be in-between squares and will not give nor receive laser damage unless it and/or an opposing robot is still directly in the line-of-sight of a laser. But, this could make things more complicated.

- Last question i want to now is that if youre allowed to have used several optioncards during same turn? One on register 1, the second on register 2 for example.
Yes, unless otherwise specified on the Option card. Each Option card will give instructions on its use. In some cases, you may even be able to use more than one Option during a single phase of a turn. However, you cannot use more than one laser-replacement Option at the same time for any particular instance of laser-fire replacement unless otherwise noted on the Option card.

In the past, I have created and posted a list of steps for a turn procedure that is very helpful in outlining what to do during a turn and when. I have updated the list and I am attaching it as a PDF document since it does not format well in a post. This will also make it easy for you to print out copies.

[ EDIT: I have removed the attachment for the step-by-step turn procedure to correct an error. I had made an updated PDF version of the file but apparently the file-size limit had been reduced so that the file is now too big to fit here. Sorry for any inconvenience. - January 06, 2007 ]


iiiHuman

[PhilFleischmann]

- If for example I do a push with a special option card instead of shoot with laser do that pushed robot shoot from his new position?

- And if that pushed robot suddenly stands in another robots line of sight does the pushed robot get shot by this robot?
Yeah, what everyone else said. The easiest way to think about it, IMO, is to simply resolve all the damage first, and then do the movement.

-Last question i want to now is that if youre allowed to have used several optioncards during same turn? One on register 1, the second on register 2 for example.
Why not? You can use multiple options even during the same phase. For example:

Use Crab Legs to move sideways onto a conveyor belt.
Then, as the conveyor belt moves, it would normally turn you around a corner, but you have Gyroscopic Stabilizer turned on, so you continue to face the same direction.
Another robot shoots you, but you take no damage, because of your Ablative Coat.
You shoot another robot with your Double-Barrel Laser, and yet another robot behind that one, due to your High-Powered Laser.
One phase - five options used.