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MAJOR_CLAW
06-02-2006, 05:59 AM
I have been woundering why the Cossack Cavalry is listed as an Allie. If you look at the histroy, the XV SS Cossack Cavalry Corps fought for with the Axis in the Soviet Union. :confused: Does any one else think that this is a little off the rocker.

Colonel_Coo
06-02-2006, 06:02 AM
I have been woundering why the Cossack Cavalry is listed as an Allie. If you look at the histroy, the XV SS Cossack Cavalry Corps fought for with the Axis in the Soviet Union. :confused: Does any one else think that this is a little off the rocker.

Yes, you are correct. But the game makers feel that Russians shouldn't fight amongst themselves. :confused:

Richter von Manthofen
06-02-2006, 06:18 AM
Yes, you are correct. But the game makers feel that Russians shouldn't fight amongst themselves. :confused:

Only Commissars were allowed to shoot their own people ;D

fifleche
06-02-2006, 08:29 AM
Cossaks, both Cav & Capt, + the whole of Poland, should be allowed to fight AGAINST the USSR; not with it.

Were some Cossaks on the side of the communists?

Frogslayer
06-02-2006, 08:35 AM
I think they fought for both sides...

Predator666
06-02-2006, 08:36 AM
Well if you make your own rules then you can have the poles and cossacks fight against the USSR. Thats what me and one of my friends does when we team up, cuz he likes to be russians so we just make him russians and I'm german. He likes being turncoats.

dredlox
06-02-2006, 09:06 AM
I think the russians impressed some Pole soldiers into fighting the nazis. Like they gave them a choice: The gulag or fight the nazis, and you probably hate them more than us.

It would have been kind of cool to get those Gene Hackman Polish Paratroopers by the way.

Y2UAsk
06-02-2006, 09:09 AM
There were two types of 'Cossacks' involved in WW2.

The first was ethnic Cossacks, most of whom saw the invading Germans as liberators. Stalin viciously persecuted the Cossacks for decades, and they loathed him. Many of these joined the advancing German army, though they weren't allowed to form their own units. (Hitler despised them about as much as Stalin did.) Primarily, they were salted in amongst existing German units and commanded by German officers.

The second type were 'Cossack' units within the Red Army. These were typically cavalry units that wore traditional Cossack-type uniforms, but most of the troopers were not ethnic Cossacks. Most of these fought with great distinction on the Soviet side throughout the war. That's the type of Soldier the AAM piece represents.

Over a million Soviet soldiers who were captured by the Germans voluntarily served the Wehrmacht in one capacity or another. Hundreds of thousands more served it involuntarily in forced labor camps. Stalin was not a popular leader, especially among Soviet citizens who were not ethnic Russians. Tragically, most of these people were repatriated to the Soviet Union after the war. There they suffered even more abuse under Stalin, who distrusted anyone who spent time under Nazi rule (including just living under Nazi occupation) because their pure, Soviet ideology might have been corrupted by Fascism.

Steve

Cruizin2000
06-02-2006, 09:15 AM
Good response, Steve. Stalin killed more people than Hitler did.

C2000

Colonel_Coo
06-02-2006, 09:17 AM
Good response, Steve. Stalin killed more people than Hitler did.

C2000
Vastly more.

As did Mao