Pirates!

[Stojakovic]

So who saw the new pirates movie!!!????

Best movie of the year!!!!!!!!!!!

More laughs than the first one.

[boylermaker]

All the reviews I've seen say "it's worse than the first, though that's not saying much." So you disagree?

[TrimChris]

I've heard that the script is pretty loose. And it was much better to discover Jack Sparrow than to revisit him.

[Stojakovic]

All the reviews I've seen say "it's worse than the first, though that's not saying much." So you disagree?

Movie critics are a bunch of botards. Get a real job people.

[johnnyonthespot]

I haven't seen the second one, but the first was actually pretty entertaining.

[Sean]

Keith Richards has signed on to do the 3rd one. If he doesn't fall out of another coconut tree.

[boylermaker]

I heard that they cut his part, actually. Which might be just as well.

Has he been reinstated recently?

[TrimChris]

I'm suddenly in the mood to play Sword & Skull. Not!

[FNG]

I saw it last night with my two nephews. We liked it, a bit long @ 2 1/2 hours.
Plenty of action and double crossing with lots of laughs. The special FX are excellent.
FNG-out

[Gargantuan]

IT was awesome!!!

[Stojakovic]

I just saw it again today. And will see it a 3rd time next week

[koops]

I just saw it again today. And will see it a 3rd time next week
really blimey, once was enough for me. didnt go much on it at all.

[Moderator Sinister]

I really didn't care for the second movie. The first one was an all time great in my book but the cgi and stupid stupid, totally unbelievable sword fights really crossed a line between swashbuckling and insulting to the intelligence. The mill wheel scene is so dumb that had it not been for jack sparrow I would have walked out.

[Guerrilla Guy]

1st one is definitely better... Unfortunately I am starting to forget all of what made the first one better in my mind, but I vaguely remember a better character fade in and out... This one kept the good laughs, and Disney and Jerry can be applauded for it... Go see it if you have seen the first one...

GG

[admiral_yamoto]

The only reason I might see it is because Cthuhlu is in it :D

[RuHurt]

The first one was marginally better, if just because it was of a more reasonable length. This one had all the laughs of the first (I don't know what's wrong with you, Sin; I almost died laughing at the mill-wheel scene :D), and the plot had some lovely intricate twists and turns, but it was just a half-hour too long. The acting was more genuine, too; Orlando Bloom didn't annoy me nearly as much in this one as he did the first.

In sum, I liked the second (seen it twice, now, but I think that's enough, at least till it comes out on video), and am impatiently awaiting the third :D.

[Stojakovic]

I really didn't care for the second movie. The first one was an all time great in my book but the cgi and stupid stupid, totally unbelievable sword fights really crossed a line between swashbuckling and insulting to the intelligence. The mill wheel scene is so dumb that had it not been for jack sparrow I would have walked out.

I am surprised about you. In a movie where there things that can never die, fantasy Sea creatures, pirate curses... you are surprised about the mill wheel?
By the way it was made by Disney :)

[boylermaker]

It is easy to willingly suspend your disbelief about things like sea monsters or curses--we've all had a lot of training. But it is hard to suspend your senses, and by all reports (won't see it till the weekend myself) the Mill Wheel is really unbelievable.

[Moderator Sinister]

fantasy is fantasy but come on, it would take and act of god for that wheel to do what it did AND then some 50th level wizard to keep the people on it.

This is the difference between E. Flynn quality swashbuckling bending reality and the George Lucas filmmaking school where storytelling takes a back seat to pushing the stupid limits of CGI to purpose make something trample on reality.

Seriously in a swashbuckling film like pirates the exchange of lines is as important as the crossing of blades. Here we have quality actors acting with quality characters and the best we can manage is a 3 way sword fight on a beach and mill wheel? This is comming from that same crew that gave us that awesome blacksmith sword fight from the first movie? Granted that had stupid elements like the rafter part but it had GREAT lines and if you disregard the rafter part of the fight and it was an incredibly cinematic believable sword fight.

[Stojakovic]

Fantasy is fantasy. And Disney will be Disney. :p

[RuHurt]

And it was still cool. And funny. So shut up, Sin ;).

[TrimChris]

Cool? Funny?

Now that's funny!

[boylermaker]

I just saw the movie yesterday, and I was very entertained. The movie had many of the problems that come with being the second of a trilogy (it is the first half of a five hour movie), but none of them seriously get in the way of enjoying the movie.

I must say I thought the special effects were pretty good. Davy Jones' crew seemed super fakey at first, but they had grown on me a lot by the end of the movie.

As to the mill wheel, well, maybe it was slightly unbelievable. But at least the movie doesn't take itself very seriously. In Star Wars I-II-III, beyond-belief special effects were presented with a stunning pomposity. In Pirates of the Caribbean, the characters on the beach watched that wheel roll on by with just as much incredulity as Moderator Sinister, and then shrugged their shoulders and went back to fighting. Some of you would enjoy the movie much more if you followed their example.

I really like the fact that the movie was a true sequel, not an entirely different story with the first movie's characters tacked on. I think we saw all the major characters from the first movie in the second one. But at the same time, there were some good new characters (I was sorry to see the Arab mate die so early on; I liked him. Though it doesn't seem like dying can keep characters out of subsequent movies, so I can still hope).

Personally, I didn't think the movie was too long. I hadn't gotten the "it has to be over any minute now" by the time the credits rolled. But I am a veteran Lord of the Rings watcher, so I guess my movie endurance is pretty good up to 3 hours (except the first Harry Potter movie. Goodness, that movie never ended!)

And of course, I liked the line, "What vexes men?" "Sums!"

My primary quibble is with the score. The only time there are any notable spots, they are all themes from the first movie. The first movie had a fantastic score, and the second did too, it was just the same fantastic score. Star Wars and Lord of the Rings did a good job of keeping great themes while adding new ones; I wish Pirates of the Caribbean had done the same.

[Stojakovic]

Cool? Funny?

Now that's funny!

Are we talking about your life here? :)

[Moderator Sinister]

And it was still cool. And funny. So shut up, Sin ;).


Wow a well put retort from RuHurt. I'm impressed. LOL

No really I just can't stand it. Errol Flynn is rolling in his grave. Swashbuckling is about bending reality not stomping on it. For me its as bad if space aliens had shown up and started blowing things up with ray guns. Heck at least that would have been more entertaining.

HOWEVER, I did enjoy a couple of things about the movie. The inside of Davy Jones Ship was done really really well. And I would have enjoyed the movie more if Keira Knightley had tried to stop the 3 way sword fight by removing clothing rather than just shouting and throwing rocks.

[Stojakovic]

I agree with the part with taking off her cloths thing. Though it would be better with Sharapova :rolleyes:

[admiral_yamoto]

no, itwas just fine with keira knightly....*drools*

[boylermaker]

Isn't there already a scene like that, with her, in another movie? So you can go watch it and keep your thoughts like that to yourself next time. :eek:

[Stojakovic]

Isn't there already a scene like that, with her, in another movie? So you can go watch it and keep your thoughts like that to yourself next time. :eek:

I think its called thw whole. She flashes 2 guys... only last for 3 secs but its better than nothing.

[koops]

Isn't there already a scene like that, with her, in another movie? So you can go watch it and keep your thoughts like that to yourself next time. :eek:

ITS CALLED DOMINO, SHE PLAYS A BOUNTY HUNTER AND DOES A STRIP TEASE

[Photoner Hawkwind]

I just saw the movie yesterday, and I was very entertained. The movie had many of the problems that come with being the second of a trilogy (it is the first half of a five hour movie), but none of them seriously get in the way of enjoying the movie.

I must say I thought the special effects were pretty good. Davy Jones' crew seemed super fakey at first, but they had grown on me a lot by the end of the movie.

As to the mill wheel, well, maybe it was slightly unbelievable. But at least the movie doesn't take itself very seriously. In Star Wars I-II-III, beyond-belief special effects were presented with a stunning pomposity. In Pirates of the Caribbean, the characters on the beach watched that wheel roll on by with just as much incredulity as Moderator Sinister, and then shrugged their shoulders and went back to fighting. Some of you would enjoy the movie much more if you followed their example.

I really like the fact that the movie was a true sequel, not an entirely different story with the first movie's characters tacked on. I think we saw all the major characters from the first movie in the second one. But at the same time, there were some good new characters (I was sorry to see the Arab mate die so early on; I liked him. Though it doesn't seem like dying can keep characters out of subsequent movies, so I can still hope).

Personally, I didn't think the movie was too long. I hadn't gotten the "it has to be over any minute now" by the time the credits rolled. But I am a veteran Lord of the Rings watcher, so I guess my movie endurance is pretty good up to 3 hours (except the first Harry Potter movie. Goodness, that movie never ended!)

And of course, I liked the line, "What vexes men?" "Sums!"

My primary quibble is with the score. The only time there are any notable spots, they are all themes from the first movie. The first movie had a fantastic score, and the second did too, it was just the same fantastic score. Star Wars and Lord of the Rings did a good job of keeping great themes while adding new ones; I wish Pirates of the Caribbean had done the same.

Great Review. Right on the mark.

Although I think I enjoyed the first a little more than the second, I think it's more because I feel left hanging for the third.