Unbeatable ALLIED Team

[A&Aaddict]

I know that there is an unbeatable axis team out there, but say hello to this tank heavy team. I have yet to try it out in a tourny (I will at the pre Gen-con tourny at Gamerz in Indy), but so far it is 4-0, with hope for even more W's. Maybe there is a team out there that can beat it, but we will see :).

100pts:
Churchill Croc
Churchill AVRE
2 Bren Gunners
1BAR
1 Eagle Eyed NCO
2 Buffalo Soldiers
1 Inspiring Hero

The key to this team is the combination of the TWO heavily armored tanks. The Croc can take care of any tank (flamethrower), while the AVRE blasts incoming infantry. The Bren gunners and BAR offer covering fire.

Are there any other proven teams out there? I'm curious to see just how many "all-round" based teams there are. Share your thoughts and thanks!

[TheJudge]

Looks solid Addict. You should post this team at www.decktech.net.

[celcorp]

Have you played your army on an open map, such as tiger heaven. I can see you having trouble with any normal veteran tiger army, such as....

Vet tiger
Elite Pnz
Sniper
Mauser x 2

I also wonder if you have played a person with two planes in their army. This may pose a problem for your team as well.

[A&Aaddict]

Planes!? Bah! While the planes might attack my infantry, even a mustang could barely touch my tanks. Plus the points would be used on pieces that could not contest the objective. Meaning less points for tanks and infantry

I will take on a Vet. Tiger team, it would be a good battle!! :D

[Sherman_buster]

A Mustang, no. A Stuka, yes.

[zkraut]

Gimme a Stuka, A vet tiger and the remainder of the points be SS Panzergrenadiers and I'll take you on. Anything can be beatable, yet armies can be perfect.

[horacus]

Against this it should be a good battle:

Vet.Tiger 65
Stuka 21
SSPG x 2
Blackshirt 4

[Ewokhunter92]

BAH! how about

45 Mosins
8 Higgins
6 T36/76


OOOOH, you said unbeatable, I thought you said Unobtainable..my bad. :p

[MrBluze]

Even though I do not think there is an “unbeatable” army this build does look good. The Vet Tiger will give you fits with the crack shot though in “Tiger Heaven”. You might want to check your math though. I got 98 points, so I replaced the BAR Gunner with another Bren to make 99 points. This adds one more attack dice to the medium range. Or if you want to keep the BAR you might want to add some minefields.
These are my calculations.
Bren Gunner........ 5 pts..... x2= 10
BAR Gunner........ 4 pts..... x1= 04
Buffalo Soldier.... 4 pts..... x2= 08
Eagle Eyed NCO.. 7 pts..... x1= 07
Inspiring Hero.... 9 pts..... x1= 09
Churchill AVRE. 25pts..... x1= 25
Churchill Croc... 35pts..... x1= 35
___________________Total 98
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[A&Aaddict]

Yes, thanks for pointing that out! The only problem is I don't have another bren gunner. This team will take on any team, just name the date and time. I'm leaving Wednsday, but I will be back Sunday. Then I'm leaving wedsnday (next) and get back Friday (next). Any of you guys can take on this team live in a tourny on the 9th of August. This is right before GenCon. If you need are interested you can PM me with Q's. I believe there is an unbeatable team its just a matter of finding it! Look forward to any competition!!


P.S. Who is going to normally use a Junkers Stuka?? :eek: :confused:

[A&Aaddict]

Against this it should be a good battle:

Vet.Tiger 65
Stuka 21
SSPG x 2
Blackshirt 4

I'm I reading this wrong?, or is this 112pts.

[Wittmann]

65+21+10+4=100

[A&Aaddict]

65+21+10+4=100

i thought is was 4 blackshirts, mybad!

[RaidingParty]

Looks like a great team!

How about throwing a Humber into the mix? 8 points for a hedge against the German Sniper.

[tragicmishap]

Good team A&A. Maybe I'll play you soon.

[A&Aaddict]

the humber.......good idea. I can handle the sniper with my AVRE'S blash attack, even from long range

[Wolfpack]

the humber.......good idea. I can handle the sniper with my AVRE'S blash attack, even from long range

And how do you do that? :confused:

[Richter von Manthofen]

I use the Stuka often (multiples in larger games). Its a great unit against medium armor and nontank vehicles..

The CroC-Avre combo is really good, I usa a similar build next saturday in a friendly tournament... (+5 Paratroopers) ;)

[metaldog]

The Stuka is nasty. The 1 game I lost last night was because of a stuka. My shermans now fear the Stuka without aa support. so should a croc.

[metaldog]

this is my new allied all armor build,
sherman m4a1 x2
rhino x1
stuart x1
m16-halftrack x1
barbed wire x2

[TheJudge]

40% chance to hit a Croc is well worth the 21 points for a Stuka. If they have a Spitfire or something, chances are, you will lose the STuka, just make sure you take out something first. Also, always hope to place 2nd with an airplane, it is a big advantage.

[RaidingParty]

the humber.......good idea. I can handle the sniper with my AVRE'S blash attack, even from long range
I thought the ruling was that snipers in cover can only be attacked at short range period?

[tragicmishap]

Nope. Snipers can be attacked by Blast at any range, (http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=6622) as long as there's another unit in the same hex that the Blasting unit can target. There was a ruling (http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=10048) that Indirect Fire cannot target Superior Camouflage units via a spotter at close range.

[Dr.Cornelius]

Nope. Snipers can be attacked by Blast at any range, (http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=6622) as long as there's another unit in the same hex that the Blasting unit can target.Right. But when facing a unit with Blast, why would the German player put another unit in the hex with the WE Sniper?

Hunting down a WE Sniper is difficult, especially against a skilled and prepared opponent. BMW+Grizzled Veteran is one option, so is Polish Cav or Paratrooper + Inspired Hero. Humbers are OK but relatively easily countered. Aircraft can also take out Snipers, but if the German player has the foresight to field Flak the plane is unlikely to get in more than one shot.