VJ Day

[Sniper45]

Hey guys, todays VJ day. Since no one has said it yet I thought I would. So happy VJ day.

[Stojakovic]

I thought it was on the 15th? And todays the 10th? I know the second A-bomb was dropped yesterday (the 9th) or am I wrong :confused:

[Lotus]

It's the 15th.

[Sniper45]

Well, it said in my this day in history email that today the Japanese agreed to an unconditional surrender.

[Lotus]

Here's a link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/15/newsid_3581000/3581971.stm

[Sniper45]

But on the History Channel website...

[Lotus]

Another link...
http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART29766.html

[Stojakovic]

But on the History Channel website...

I saw a History channel show a few years back and some historian said the allies recaptured france on July 10th 1943.

[Lotus]

One final link...the Dept. of Defense.
http://www.defenselink.mil/home/features/2005/vjday/index2.html

[Sniper45]

Now I feel stupid, or, more stupid than usual.

[dracos42]

Well, it said in my this day in history email that today the Japanese agreed to an unconditional surrender.

My guess would be that the Japanese government agreed to the surrender today, but didn't sign the surrender document till the 15th. So no official surrender till the 15th.

Always make allowances for paperwork! :D

Mike L.

[RBloom0566]

Always make allowances for paperwork! :D

Mike L.

...and politicians!

[Predator666]

I would bet agreed on 10th and paperwork on 15th.

[Taisho_Alex]

So youre saying the dropped the second nuke AFTER the Japanese surrendered?

[RBloom0566]

Hiroshima - "Little Boy" - August 6th.
Nagasaki - "Fat Man" - August 9th.
Japanese leaders convene - August 14th.
Accept terms of Potsdam Declaration (terms of surrender) - August 15th.
Occupation of Japan - August 28th.
Japanese Instrument of Surrender signed - September 2nd.

- from Wikipedia.

[Colonel_Coo]

Russia's entry into the second world war against Japan coupled with the Atomic bombings led the Emperor to demand peace from the military high command. the high command had rightfully thought that the US did not have a unlimed amount of these super bombs and would still need to invade. Meanwhile, delivery of a 6 engine heavy long range bomber to the Imp Army was due in 45 to 60 days. With that bomber (being develped in modern day Korea) and the biological weapons (unit 731) being overrun by the Russian's all hope for a negotiated peace evaporated.

By forcing Russia to enter the war, the two atomic bombings ended the war against Imperial Japan.

[protevangelium]

Russia's entry into the second world war against Japan coupled with the Atomic bombings led the Emperor to demand peace from the military high command. the high command had rightfully thought that the US did not have a unlimed amount of these super bombs and would still need to invade. Meanwhile, delivery of a 6 engine heavy long range bomber to the Imp Army was due in 45 to 60 days. With that bomber (being develped in modern day Korea) and the biological weapons (unit 731) being overrun by the Russian's all hope for a negotiated peace evaporated.

By forcing Russia to enter the war, the two atomic bombings ended the war against Imperial Japan.

It is interesting that Emperor Hirohito only mentions the atomic bombs in his surrender address. The Soviet entrance into the war is not mentioned, if I recall correctly. Of course, I'm not saying that the USSR had no role in Japan's surrender, but Hirohito's non-mention is very interesting. I wonder why that was... perhaps it was the German impression of more favorable treatment by the Western Allies? That might be a stretch, but the Japanese would have been well aware of the battle for Berlin. The Soviets were certainly not afraid of taking on Japan, let alone insane urban combat. No doubt the Japanese were well aware of this. Thoughts?

[Sniper45]

Under further research, I found that that they agreed to Potsdam on 10th, surrender made public 14th, and Emperor told the people 15th.