Set V new planes. [Archive] - Avalon Hill Boards

AudieMurphy

09-08-2006, 09:00 AM

Since the last two sets offered 5 new planes each, I'm guessing set V Reserves should be the same.

We can expect one of them to be Germany's turbojet-powered fighter Messerschmitt Me 262 since it is pictured on the box.

That leaves 4 other planes. Germany and USA are the only countries that got at least a new airplane in each set since Contested Skies. So I'm guessing USA will get another plane.

The Bell P-59 Airacomet (or the Bell P-59B Airacomet) could be it. I'm not sure they were ever used in combat, but they do seem to fit one of the theme (experimental) of the set.

Russia could also use another plane. A cheaper Ilyushin Il-2 or one of the Yakovlev Yaks maybe? The Lavochkin fighters and fighter-bombers are also options as are Mikoyan-Gurevich's MiG-1 and MiG-3.

But of all the Big Five countries, Japan is the one that really need reinforcements, and if they can't get a good tank, they should at least get dome more plane option than the good ol' Zero. My fisrt choice would be the Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate ("Frank") which was the best japanese fighter plane by the end of the war. Other Nakajima prospects could be the good early war Ki-43 Hayabusa ("Oscar") and the specialized interceptor Ki-44 Shoki ("Tojo"). The Mitsubishi Ki-46-III series had many versions, some experimental. Allies thought that Mitsubishi's J2M Raiden was Japan's best interceptor

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some planes for smaller countries like France and Italy. Italy could get one of the Macchi planes, either the MC.202 Folgore or the MC.205V Veltro. Reggiane's Re.2001 Falco II, Re.2002 Ariete and Re.2005 Sagittario could also be good choices. France could get the Bloch MB.152C.1, the Caudron C.714 Cyclone, Dewoitine D.520, the Loire-Nieuport LN.411, etc...

Richter von Manthofen

09-08-2006, 09:38 AM

I would hope that we get at least a French or an Italian plane. Also welcome would be a Yak and a good *** AT plane ;) - if such a thing existed.

johnnyonthespot

09-08-2006, 09:46 AM

I think we will get five planes:
USSR (Yak)
UK
US (P-47)
German (Me262)
Italian

Just a feeling... or a hope.

polish_horsy

09-08-2006, 11:04 AM

I hope there is not a Brit Jet in the set. That would be silly for a WWII game. It was not a significant factor.

cannonfodder

09-08-2006, 11:12 AM

Gloster Meteor?
The Flying Tigers?
Hawker Hurricane?
The Japanese Push prop plane (I have no name for this one)?
A German plane with strafe as an SA?
RCAF (that's Royal Canadian Air Force) Spitfires (a different roundel from the UK version)?
The German rocket plane/interceptor?
The possibilities are all over the map. Let's just hope we get some inf too. And some armour.

Remember-OWS-

09-08-2006, 11:22 AM

The Hawker Hurricane was in Set IV!!!

polish_horsy

09-08-2006, 11:28 AM

Gloster Meteor... yeah that was the one I hope we don't get. I hate getting 1945 units in this game.

Ewokhunter92

09-08-2006, 11:29 AM

How about a Spitfire, surely the UK need one of the best planes they had.

AudieMurphy

09-08-2006, 11:44 AM

Remember-OWS:
"The Hawker Hurricane was in Set IV!!!"

Actually, UK got a Hawker Typhoon in set IV, not one of the Hawker Hurricane.

AudieMurphy

09-08-2006, 11:46 AM

I would love to see a USA elite fighter plane dedicated to the Tuskagee Airmen, the best escort pilots the allied ever had. I doubt they will be in this set however. When Nationalist China comes back in a set I hope they give them the Flying Tigers.

Predator666

09-08-2006, 03:27 PM

Germany
Italy
Russia
French
Japan

That would flesh out some of what we need in other countries.

Roter_Teufel

09-08-2006, 04:25 PM

Gloster Meteor?

The Japanese Push prop plane (I have no name for this one)?

The German rocket plane/interceptor?

And some armour.

The Japanese one was called the The Kyushu J7W1 Shinden, and I think the German rocket interceptor was called the Comet (Komet).

richyj1

09-08-2006, 04:28 PM

The Komet would have no purpose in this game - it had a pathetic fuel load, it's sole mission was to quickly get up to altitude to attack Allied bombers...

mu11etboyz93

09-08-2006, 04:30 PM

he could mean this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachem_Ba_349)

Ubergeek

09-08-2006, 05:31 PM

Macchi 202 (or 205) and a Yak or Mig-3

Qmark

09-08-2006, 09:56 PM

I would love to see a USA elite fighter plane dedicated to the Tuskagee Airmen, the best escort pilots the allied ever had. I doubt they will be in this set however.I'd much rather see Redtails appear when they actually have bombers to escort.

Aztec Eagles would be some fun to mess with.

zkraut

09-08-2006, 10:03 PM

Don't you mean the "Redtails"?

Jay_Gatsby

09-08-2006, 11:14 PM

he could mean this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachem_Ba_349)

The Komet was the Me-163. The Natter would still have no use in this game, as it was also a one-shot interceptor.

richyj1

09-09-2006, 04:39 AM

For those interested, the Wikipedia article on the Komet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_163

Canuck_Captain

09-09-2006, 08:00 AM

Maybe we can skip ahead to the sixties and give Canada the AVRO ARROW ;)

jus kidding, I dont care for jet aircraft or experimental units in a HISTORICAL game but I cant wait for the frickin Ranger and Fallschirmjager units....

cannonfodder

09-09-2006, 09:32 AM

Thanks for the info. I keep getting Shinden (the plane) mixed up with Shingen (the daimyo) and the last thing this game needs is flying Samurai warriors.
Oh all right then
Takeda Shingen cost :15 (it's hard resurrecting the dead)
def: 9/9 (he is after all a samurai)
AI: 2/2/2 (wait for it)
AT:0/0/0 (still coming
SA: Hand to Hand 20 (eat your heart out Jagdtiger, now the inf have a heavy hitter too)

this unit appears only once per game and only in all Japanese builds.
flavour text: althought rare the sight of a Samurai warrior on the field of battle always caused consternation. "What the hell is that?" were commonly the common footsoldiers common last words. Common.

J.L.Robert

09-09-2006, 11:20 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing these as the 5 planes released in Reserves:

Soviet: Miyokan-Gurevich MiG-3
U.S.: Northrop P-61 "Black Widow"
German: Focke-Wulf Ta-152, Messerschmitt Me-262
Japan: Kyushu J7W1 "Shinden"

Colonel_Coo

09-09-2006, 11:51 AM

My guesses for the planes:

Germany: ME-262
Brittain: the Meteor? More likely the Mosquito
Japan: Frank or the Shinden
US: A Marine air plane: the Corsair
Russia: IL-2

AudieMurphy

09-09-2006, 01:39 PM

J.L.Robert:
I wouldn't mind seeing these as the 5 planes released in Reserves:

Soviet: Miyokan-Gurevich MiG-3
U.S.: Northrop P-61 "Black Widow"
German: Focke-Wulf Ta-152, Messerschmitt Me-262
Japan: Kyushu J7W1 "Shinden"

The P-61 Black Widow is a cool looking plane, but, compared to planes we got so far, isn't a bit big for A&AM?

Jay_Gatsby

09-09-2006, 02:04 PM

Kaufschtick

09-09-2006, 03:12 PM

I would say, if they stick to the 5 per set...

*German Me-262 (duh... :) )

*British Gloster Meteor

*U.S. P-47 or Hellcat/Corsair (If the U.S. get a jet, I'm going to say they would do the P-80 Shooting Star over the P-59 Comet. The old Avalon Hill WWII air combat game Mustang went with the P-80 Shooting Star too. The P-59 Comet wasn't too good as far as I gather.)

*Chinese P-40 (To which you can get as many of these as you want, because damn near every allied country used them, just repaint to suit your taste!)

*Russian La-5 or La-7 (Could be a Yak, but I'd actually like to see them do a Red Air Force Bell P-39 Aircobra. It was U.S. made and sent to the Russians via lend-lease. It had a 30mm cannon firing through the spinner and the Russians liked to use them "down on the deck" against ground targets, i.e. tanks.)

J.L.Robert

09-09-2006, 04:31 PM

The P-61 was the largest Pursuit aircraft used by the USAAF (about the size of a B-25 medium bomber). Even though it's one of my favorite aircraft, I must say that it might be a bit too big for AAM. If they did put it in, what could they give it to represent it properly? It would be nice to see something along the lines of a "first shot" SA against aircraft (representing the radar), but I don't think there will be a place for it unless they come out with nightfighting rules.

You may be right. AH doesn't go through the trouble of fudging the scale of units in this game, do they? *cough*HELLCAT*cough* :rolleyes:

As for special abilities, perhaps something that prevents opposing Aircraft from performing Defensive Fire against it...

I think it's a cool-looking plane. But since there will likely never be any sort of night rules for this game, it'll likely not make its way into production.

Texas_Archer

09-09-2006, 05:31 PM

I have a good feeling the French will get their aircraft. Go Dewoitine D 520!

Remember-OWS-

09-09-2006, 06:35 PM

My Crystal ball says:

Germany: Me262, Messerschmitt Me 309 (Experimental)
Italian: MC 202 Folgore
Japan: Ki-84 Hayate

Australia: CA-13 Boomerang
France: Dewotine D.520
Great Britain: Hawker Tempest
Us:P-40 Warhawk, Grumman F6F Hellcat
Soviet Union: Yak-3

Jay_Gatsby

09-09-2006, 06:55 PM

10 planes? That's a stretch. I'm saying 5 or so to throw in there with the usual assortment of tanks and tank-like vehicles that are fit only for scenario use.

horacus

09-09-2006, 06:56 PM

Jay_Gatsby

09-09-2006, 06:58 PM

Interesting Predictions, but i think we will see only 5 of them.

Two people agree, so therefore five planes it is.

Remember-OWS-

09-09-2006, 09:07 PM

Ah, make five of them then... dammit!!! :p

Germany: Me262,
Italian: MC 202 Folgore
France: Dewotine D.520
Us:P-40 Warhawk,
Soviet Union: Yak-3

horacus

09-09-2006, 09:20 PM

Ah, make five of them then... dammit!!! :p

Germany: Me262,
Italian: MC 202 Folgore
France: Dewotine D.520
Us:P-40 Warhawk,
Soviet Union: Yak-3

100% agreement with you.

Richter von Manthofen

09-10-2006, 04:21 AM

Drop out the Italian and add a decent Japanese plane and I would be happy ;)

Remember-OWS-

09-10-2006, 04:30 AM

The Italian airplanes played a big role in North Africa. So since the Italian do not have a plane I thought, give them a decent one. Yes the Japanese lack punch in the air. But most of their plane were not shielded so they will almost all have a 3/3 defense.

AudieMurphy

09-10-2006, 04:54 AM

Remember-OWS-:
"Ah, make five of them then... dammit!!! :p

Germany: Me262,
Italian: MC 202 Folgore
France: Dewotine D.520
Us:P-40 Warhawk,
Soviet Union: Yak-3"

I think you made a better selection the second time around Remember-OWS.
Especially since Australia is not part of the set :( . I too would love to see the Boomerang (and much more Australians units) in the near future.

The Dewoitine D.520 was a good plane from what I read, but only 36 of them were delivered before the German invasion of may 1940. Most of the 905 aircraft that were produced went on to be used by Vichy France and were also passed to Germany's allies.

I agree with you that Italy should get a plane. They had some good ones and they could sure use some good units for a change in this game.

ANTIBOMBER

09-11-2006, 10:51 AM

My Vote,

US....P-40 or P-80 (Jet)
UK....Meteor
GM...Me 262
JP....Shinden
IT....202 or 205

TheJudge

09-11-2006, 11:07 AM

My crystal ball says:

P-40 Warhawk- This fits the theme of reserves since China, US, UK, and Russia all used these since they were available. UK called them a Tomahawk as I recall. I would also wager that this would be a very average plane at best in the game, a useless rare.

Hawker Hurricane- Again, a very versatile and readily available aircraft. Would likely be another junk rare.

ME-262- This plane was a fighter/bomber. With it's horrid grouping of 30mm cannons, it could easily be a tank buster but also carried bombs. It's speed was outrageous but was easily shot down due to the lack of strategic materials used to build it. This might be a 30 point rare that can be shot down by a Garand rifle. I want my momma.

Corsair- Great plane to model after. Fast, heavily armed, and cool looking. The Japanese didn't called it whispering death for nothing. Might turn out to be a 14 or 15 point fighter that would scare the bajeezuz out of the opponent if he has a plane.

Oscar or Frank- The japanese need help and a higher defense, deployable aircraft that can stand toe to toe with the current aircraft would be nice. My guess is, they get the plane and it's a clunker.

That's my prediction. My hope is we get 1 plane, the Jet and they forget about planes until they change the way the planes work so they won't get shot down by a Imperial Sargeant or a Higgins Boat.

Photoner Hawkwind

09-11-2006, 01:45 PM

They might not have overlaped the experimental with the planes which would allow us to see a couple of jets included in the let's hope not more than 5 experimental units and still get 5 practical planes for the rest of us not wanting the experimental stuff.

polish_horsy

09-12-2006, 07:30 AM

My crystal ball says:
That's my prediction. My hope is we get 1 plane, the Jet and they forget about planes until they change the way the planes work so they won't get shot down by a Imperial Sargeant or a Higgins Boat.

well you are always welcome to use Polish House Rules. Here is a Stuka for example. The planes are more survivable and more costly but not all that much more deadly.

Photoner Hawkwind

09-12-2006, 01:10 PM

well you are always welcome to use Polish House Rules. Here is a Stuka for example. The planes are more survivable and more costly but not all that much more deadly.

When I first read this I thought it was the Polish Horse Rules. :D

Nice effort on the Stuka stats. :cool:

polish_horsy

09-12-2006, 01:53 PM

House not Horse man!

:)

Here is a Mustang for comparison.

hellstorm

09-12-2006, 02:40 PM

no i wish that american gets a high cruiser bomber and add some new rules for it

polish_horsy

09-12-2006, 02:58 PM

B-17
Cost 1

special ability: Carpet bomb. Disrupt every playing piece enemy or ally. Wait 1 turn and then play a normal game.

How is that?

zkraut

09-12-2006, 03:03 PM

Good one! That just about summarizes the use of those STRATEGIC bombers in a TACTICAL game!

Sturmgrenadier

09-13-2006, 03:45 AM

well you are always welcome to use Polish House Rules.
What PHR? Any site? More info?

Michael Hayden

09-14-2006, 06:17 PM

I think we will get five planes:
USSR (Yak)
UK
US (P-47)
German (Me262)
Italian

Just a feeling... or a hope.

For the UK, they can bring in the P40e Kittyhawk -- the british version of the p40

P-40E
2,320 P-40E's rolled off Curtiss production lines, mostly in 1942. Continuing the trend to bulk up, it carried six 50 caliber machine guns in the wings, ultimately the most common armament of American fighters in WW2. Two-thirds of them, designated Kittyhawk Mk IA, went to the RAF, the RCAF, the RAAF, and the RNZAF - Copyright 2003, by Acepilots.com. All rights reserved.
http://www.acepilots.com/planes/p40_warhawk.html

Lotus

09-14-2006, 06:27 PM

Macchi 202 (or 205) and a Yak or Mig-3

Yup. Just looking at the specs for the Macci the other day. I'd like to see any and all of the above but it would be esp. interesting to see Italy get a Veltro.

spacepope

09-15-2006, 08:49 AM

My guess-timates:
Flying Tigers (Nationalist China)
Me262
Yak-fighter
Japanese Dive Bomber
French MS 406

TheCygnysGuardian

09-21-2006, 05:39 PM

I'm all in for Japan/Shinden,UK/Mosquito and NC/P-40. Seeing an Italian/French aircraft would be good also.

First Post!

hellstorm

09-21-2006, 05:42 PM

what about the polish planes at the begining of the war

Captain_Blackadder

09-21-2006, 05:42 PM

I am holding out for the UK to get a dehavilland mosquito

TheCygnysGuardian

09-21-2006, 05:44 PM

Oh, and definitely the P-47/US

Twentecable

09-22-2006, 05:50 AM

My crystal ball says:

ME-262- This plane was a fighter/bomber. With it's horrid grouping of 30mm cannons, it could easily be a tank buster but also carried bombs. It's speed was outrageous but was easily shot down due to the lack of strategic materials used to build it. This might be a 30 point rare that can be shot down by a Garand rifle. I want my momma.

ME-262's were never easily shot down... they just flew away. Almost no 262 were lost out of a dogfight.
Most of them were lost while refuelling (fuel was a highly exploding mixture of Stof A and B) one drop was enough for BOOM!)
or when they were out of fuel and tried to land....

I think tey will put in a Heinkel HE 162 "Salamander" (http://photos.kitmaker.net/showgallery.php/cat/16925) in the set...
A plane designed to be flewn by everyone (like the kever as a car :D)

TheCygnysGuardian

09-22-2006, 06:37 AM

Yup. Just looking at the specs for the Macci the other day. I'd like to see any and all of the above but it would be esp. interesting to see Italy get a Veltro.
The Veltro sounds great.

TheJudge

09-22-2006, 07:08 AM

Without being to nit-picky, the Me262 was a fast plane but wasn't heavily armored so when something could catch it to hit it, it was easy to shoot down.

Hawker Tempest's and Typhoon's and latest model Spitfire's and Mustang's could defeat the Me262 in combat if they could catch it.

polish_horsy

09-22-2006, 07:14 AM

The French plane (MS 406) will probably get slow or some other negative trait that makes it easier to shoot down. It will be crappy but that is accurate.

Twentecable

09-22-2006, 07:17 AM

Well the thing is that because it was so fast it was seldom shot down in dogfights.. The Allies used their air superiority to fly around airfields catching starting and landing planes.
look here : http://www.luftfahrtspuren.de/schul.htm

Cruizin2000

09-22-2006, 07:33 AM

The Germans would have FW-190Ds flying around the airfield to protect the landing 262s. They had orange bellies with white strips so that the AA gunners didn't shot down their own flyers.

That's exactly how they did it - catch'em landing. I think that that's how they got Nowotny if I remember correctly.

C2000

Rick

09-22-2006, 04:52 PM

B-17
Cost 1

special ability: Carpet bomb. Disrupt every playing piece enemy or ally. Wait 1 turn and then play a normal game.

How is that?

There was one operation in the Western Theater where strategic bombers were used to attempt to impact the tactical level soldier on the ground. It was the Allied offensive (Goodwood, I believe) to try and break out towards St. Lo. B-17 were used to carpet bomb what was thought to be German held positions. The hoped for outcome was that the Germans would be so devistated by the destruction that the American armor would waltz over them with ease.

In fact, it was a LOT of BANG! But, it had no positive impact on the offensive. Some of the bombings actually hit Allied positions. Some of the Bombing fell on empty ground. The remainder hit some German front lines, and there was some damaged and destroyed equipment and men killed. It also gave the germans some more bomb craters withwhich to dig in even further. In addition, the churned up ground, made it difficult for allied tanks to drive quickly through open ground.

So, no, Stragtic bombers on the battlefield, is in my opinion a very bad idea.

Rick

Anubis

09-22-2006, 11:42 PM

England should get the Comet

grillcookr2

09-23-2006, 05:27 AM

Aichi D3A1 Val. Come on Avalon Hill

TheCygnysGuardian

09-23-2006, 09:53 AM

Going with the 'experimental' mood of Reserves, maybe the US could get the
XF5F-1 Skyrocket. It's speedy and powerful, though it is a Navy plane.

dictator_wanna_be

09-23-2006, 11:13 AM

So, no, Stragtic bombers on the battlefield, is in my opinion a very bad idea.

Rick

I completly agree! Not in a platoon level game were a bomber could destroy all of them...

Rather if you want the bombing in the game but it in senioros.

simonr1978

09-23-2006, 12:19 PM

England should get the Comet

What do you mean? The only WWII Comet I'm aware of is the Me163 Komet, there was the dH Comet (The first jet airliner) and a prewar racer, also de Havilland, but I'm not aware that Britain produced any other Comets around that time.

RBloom0566

09-23-2006, 12:43 PM

What do you mean? The only WWII Comet I'm aware of is the Me163 Komet, there was the dH Comet (The first jet airliner) and a prewar racer, also de Havilland, but I'm not aware that Britain produced any other Comets around that time.

The Germans have a nice trio that could appear -
Me-262
He-162
Me-163
Everyone's talking up the 262, but the He-162 and Me-163 also saw active duty.

Britain should get the Meteor.
US should get F-4 Phantom (JUST KIDDING)!
Who cares if Russia gets one?
France? Do they even have jets today?

TheCygnysGuardian

09-23-2006, 02:45 PM

RBloom0566

09-23-2006, 06:37 PM

What do you have against Russia?

Nothing. I just don't play them enough to care if they get one.
I'm an American purist, although I sometimes allow the Brits to play.

TheCygnysGuardian

09-23-2006, 06:43 PM

Nothing. I just don't play them enough to care if they get one.
I'm an American purist, although I sometimes allow the Brits to play.

I hear ya; my bad.

Jay_Gatsby

09-23-2006, 11:08 PM

The Germans have a nice trio that could appear -
Me-262
He-162
Me-163
Everyone's talking up the 262, but the He-162 and Me-163 also saw active duty.

Britain should get the Meteor.
US should get F-4 Phantom (JUST KIDDING)!
Who cares if Russia gets one?
France? Do they even have jets today?

I'm going to have to make the Me-163 my personal issue, as it is frequently brought up in posts about wanted aircraft. Personally, I feel that there is really no place for it in this game. The Komet was designed to intercept bombers, and had really no other practical use. It was almost like a SAM if the SAM had guns on it and there was a guy riding in it.

RBloom0566

09-24-2006, 06:56 AM

I'm going to have to make the Me-163 my personal issue, as it is frequently brought up in posts about wanted aircraft. Personally, I feel that there is really no place for it in this game. The Komet was designed to intercept bombers, and had really no other practical use. It was almost like a SAM if the SAM had guns on it and there was a guy riding in it.

A small correction. I didn't say the Me-163 Komet was ~wanted~ by me; just that it was an aircraft available to the Experimental set. It was almost exclusively a bomber interceptor, and not a hot one at that.

Jay_Gatsby

09-24-2006, 07:44 AM

A small correction. I didn't say the Me-163 Komet was ~wanted~ by me; just that it was an aircraft available to the Experimental set. It was almost exclusively a bomber interceptor, and not a hot one at that.

I understand. There have been numerous times when it has been listed as a wanted aircraft though. Maybe we should start the Komet Resistance Movement.

starwiz76

09-25-2006, 10:50 AM

Stojakovic

09-25-2006, 01:53 PM

France? Do they even have jets today?

I thought we liked the French now?

hornet69

09-25-2006, 02:05 PM

france no jets in ww2.now yes ever here of the mirage 2000

polish_horsy

09-25-2006, 02:09 PM

do I have to start calling them Victory Fries again? I mean I'm trying to be patriotic and all but it is so hard to keep track of who we are supposed to hate at the present time.

(disclaimer: I'm not serious - anyone who actually used the term victory fries in a serious tone is a fool.)

mdescalzo

09-25-2006, 02:17 PM

(disclaimer: I'm not serious - anyone who actually used the term victory fries in a serious tone is a fool.)

If you're serious, you call them Freedom Fries...

Stojakovic

09-25-2006, 04:20 PM

Jay_Gatsby

09-25-2006, 04:46 PM

Salisbury Steak.

TheCygnysGuardian

09-25-2006, 05:24 PM

I thought this thread was about miniatures, not food. Besides, no one's mentioned beverages...

RBloom0566

09-25-2006, 05:28 PM

I thought we liked the French now?

We? There a mouse in your pocket, Stoj? *L*

Raphael

09-25-2006, 05:31 PM

My choices:

Poland: PLZ P.11
Japan: Aichi Dive Bomber
UK: Fairey Battle

RBloom0566

09-25-2006, 05:39 PM

I understand. There have been numerous times when it has been listed as a wanted aircraft though. Maybe we should start the Komet Resistance Movement.

Sign me up. We don't need to tread into Bomber Zone!

RBloom0566

09-25-2006, 05:42 PM

The only German Jet I would like is the Me 262. I would also like since the jets will be coming of age is the British Metor. The nice thing is both saw action in the war. But as far as anyone else getting planes. Personally I would like a Polish Air Force unit. There aircraft might have been oboslete in 1939. But they still put up a good fight.

I disagree. The He-162 saw action in WWII and it was also a fairly cool little jet. I'd like to see it just as much as the Me-262.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avhe162.html

<edit>...and yes, I realize I've been calling it the -163. Whoops.

TheCygnysGuardian

09-25-2006, 05:46 PM

My choices:

Poland: PLZ P.11
Japan: Aichi Dive Bomber
UK: Fairey Battle

All three sound great.

starwiz76

09-26-2006, 11:14 AM

I disagree. The He-162 saw action in WWII and it was also a fairly cool little jet. I'd like to see it just as much as the Me-262.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avhe162.html

<edit>...and yes, I realize I've been calling it the -163. Whoops.

Ok I forgot that the 162 had less then a month of combat time before the end of the war. But it and the Komet both are not my idea of a good plane to add. I know that the 262 was ok, it had its problems, but it did shoot down several allied aircraft.