Neder?????????

[boersma8]

In the latest scenario ( the Kraft line) there's mention of a Dutch river called "Neder". As I'm from Holland myself, I thought I'd say that I've never heard of such a river. I do know a river called "Nederrijn" which means "netherrhine" or "lower Rhine" if you wish....Maybe this is the one the scenario makers are reffering to??? ( or, another possibility, that the name has changed since WW II????). If anyone knows for sure, please enlighten me!

[Taisho_Alex]

I'm pretty sure it refers to the english name for the dutch river ;) I seem to remember "the river neder" from some film and yes, it is probably the Nederrijn :)

[Pasalades]

In the latest scenario ( the Kraft line) there's mention of a Dutch river called "Neder". As I'm from Holland myself, I thought I'd say that I've never heard of such a river. I do know a river called "Nederrijn" which means "netherrhine" or "lower Rhine" if you wish....Maybe this is the one the scenario makers are reffering to??? ( or, another possibility, that the name has changed since WW II????). If anyone knows for sure, please enlighten me!

Neder and Nederrijn are fine. It's not a big deal. But Neder is just how English speaking people refer to the Nederrijn.

[cannonfodder]

Any place name or location with more than two syllables in it confuses us so we just abbreviate. You don't mind, do you? *grins impishly, hoping he has not offended.*

[boersma8]

Ok. Didn't know it was called that in English. Funny English speaking people decided to leave out the " Rhine/ Rijn" part...If I remember correctly the lower Rhine ( I'm sure I've also heard this name in English or does this mean something else again, like the part of the river close to the sea or something????) is actually a tributary of the Rhine itself...

[boersma8]

Any place name or location with more than two syllables in it confuses us so we just abbreviate. You don't mind, do you? *grins impishly, hoping he has not offended.*

Hence LA and Frisco? ;)

[Arontje]

Its called:

In Dutch: de Rijn

I thought in English: the Rhine. But guess it is Neder. Nederland is Dutch for the Netherlands :)

Long live the .... eh, live long cause the Dutch always get overruned. ;)

[Sharpe]

Cheer up! You beat the snot out of the Duke of Alva, and don't forget Blenheim!

[Arontje]

Cheer up! You beat the snot out of the Duke of Alva, and don't forget Blenheim!


True... And...
we have made New Amsterdam. Mostly known now as NEW YORK!!!!!


Plus the trading companies and all. For a small country as ours we have done a lot. Plus our marines were the first marines ever in history.

But still, times have changed.

[Sharpe]

I try not to blame you for New York.

[Arontje]

I try not to blame you for New York.
:D

Whats to blame?

[Richter von Manthofen]

After all - All of Holland was once part of the Holy Roman Empire - Ruled by Austrians which originated in Switzerland :D

So all bow before the Mighty Richter von Manthofen - Supreme Overlord ...

;)

[Sharpe]

It's a joke, political and cultural differences between the Eastern seaboard and America's heartland.

[Arontje]

The Undutchables ;)

[Sharpe]

good one. lol

[Richter von Manthofen]

Let me sing:

in the Dutch mountains....


:D

[boersma8]

Its called:

In Dutch: de Rijn

I thought in English: the Rhine. But guess it is Neder. Nederland is Dutch for the Netherlands :)

Long live the .... eh, live long cause the Dutch always get overruned. ;)

Actually the " Rijn" and "Nederrijn" are two " different" rivers, Arontje........Then again, looking at the map it seems like the name of the river Rhine changes as soon as it enters Holland from Germany into " Waal" and " Nederrijn". Well, at least that's what it looks like. Still it seems to me the actual Rhine also traverses our country..........

[Arontje]

Actually the " Rijn" and "Nederrijn" are two " different" rivers, Arontje........Then again, looking at the map it seems like the name of the river Rhine changes as soon as it enters Holland from Germany into " Waal" and " Nederrijn". Well, at least that's what it looks like. Still it seems to me the actual Rhine also traverses our country..........


ehhh..... I will look into it and see where I went wrong if I am indeed wrong.

[Sharpe]

I always thought the Rijn flowed in from Germany and made this huge messy delta. Every little bit seems to have its own name.

[HRS]

yep.. we have loads of "big" rivers ;) I'm still wondering if Montgomery ever noticed that pesky Yssel when he planned Market Garden, it's as broad as the rhine at Arnhem. Anyone knows if the situation was different then?