Testing the Waters. WAS POLL

[Muenchausen]

Will you be buying War at Sea?

[Cruizin2000]

A&A minis costs alot of money and WAS is going to cost even MORE money to do it right. Besides, I love my beautiful wife and divorce is even MORE expensive. ;)

C2000

[PatrickWR]

Nope.

Any interest I had was tempered over the last year by the AAM: The Gathering offerings from WOTC/AH.

[Jay_Gatsby]

It's all about the cash money, dollar dollar bill. Namely, me not having enough of it to spare on toy boats.

[Stojakovic]

Reserved 2 cases and 2 starters. If I don't like. Off to the bay of e.


p.s. They are ships... NOT boats.

[DarkMercy]

Since my birthday is in March, I plan on asking for a starter and a couple of boosters. That way, if I don't like it, I wouldn't have spent my own money on it.

[Bobsalt]

Nope.

Any interest I had was tempered over the last year by the AAM: The Gathering offerings from WOTC/AH.
I’m with you Patrick. After my experience with A&AM I intend to wait quite awhile before buying WaS to be sure it isn’t a repeat of my A&AM experience.

I’ll be interested to see how this poll comes out. I think there’s a good chance the numbers won’t be that flattering. Of course, I think a lot of the guys who would be interested in WaS have long since bailed on A&AM, so there may not be as many “no” votes as there could be. I’m also somewhat surprised at how many guys who’ve been fairly critical of A&AM nevertheless have indicated that they still intend to but WaS. Still, I think all of the issues with A&AM definitely chased away a lot of potential customers and has hurt the potential of WaS.

I really do want WaS to succeed – but not so much so that I’m going to spend money on it before making sure it really is a historical game.

[mdescalzo]

I'll buy a starter...maybe a booster or two. I'll at least get my hands on a couple Fletchers. I plan to convert one to a square bridge, 10x 40mm load-out. I *will* have a USS Stockham in my force.

[Stojakovic]

I’ll be interested to see how this poll comes out. I think there’s a good chance the numbers won’t be that flattering. Of course, I think a lot of the guys who would be interested in WaS have long since bailed on A&AM, so there may not be as many “no” votes as there could be. I’m also somewhat surprised at how many guys who’ve been fairly critical of A&AM nevertheless have indicated that they still intend to but WaS. Still, I think all of the issues with A&AM definitely chased away a lot of potential customers and has hurt the potential of WaS.



There are quit a few people I know who play pirates in a couple different stores, the said if they introduced ships to the game or made a seperate game with ships they would buy it. Seems to me toy ships or more popular than toy tanks. So using my area as a model if half the people who play pirates and would like to get into a WWII ship game, that is 10-13 people right there. That is good for a red neck hick town of 11,000 people. Though it has to be a good... GREAT game in orderfor them to keep on selling it. Not to mention some funky minis could drive people away.

[carson]

There's a couple of us here that intend to try it. So I envision picking up a starter & likely 2 boosters. Commitment beyond that level though is dependant upon game mechanics & quality......

[Cruizin2000]

Who are the 9 Gung Ho "damn the torpedos" buyers?

So far, about 20% of the voters are going for this hook, line, and sinker. Buyer beware...

C2000

[polish_horsy]

My option is:

Buy a bunch of pieces in 2008 at half-price. That option will certainly be there.

[Stojakovic]

I put option 2. I al least want a bismarck, even if I don't like the game. It will look cool on the shelf.

[RBloom0566]

I consider myself solidly in the option 1.5 category.

I'm going to buy a Starter and a couple of Boosters to see if it's quality goods or not. If it is, I'm into it for all I can afford and the land game will suffer the loss of expenditure.

If it's crap, I'm with Stoj--get the high profile pieces then kick it to the curb.

[cannonfodder]

I will not be spending money on a game that looks and (from what I've seen in the previews and fast start book) plays the same as A+A minis just so I can get pretty plastic boats.
I said not a chance and would have voted "Forgedaboutit" if that was an option.
I spend all my gaming dollars on A+A minis and unless something significantly different comes out I will not be switching.

[Muenchausen]

Who are the 9 Gung Ho "damn the torpedos" buyers?

So far, about 20% of the voters are going for this hook, line, and sinker. Buyer beware...

C2000

I'm one of the now 11 "damn the torpedos" buyers. I'm not as critical with these toys (tanks and ships) as some people are. If I like the minis, I can live with some of the goofs. Now I'm not excusing WOTC for the goof's made in the past. I hope they don't make any more in the future. But if they do, it's not that big of a deal to me. I can live with it. If they ever do something that I can't live with. I'll send my complaint to Customer Service, sell of my collection and be done with it. I won't raise a stink on these boards because I'm not that emotionally attached to these toy soldiers and tanks. I also believe in fighting my own battles. If I'm dissatisfied with this or any other product, I'll fight with my wallet.

The bottom line is this. I buy AAM as toys to play war games. Althought they are advertised as collectables. To me, they are not. They are just toys. If I wanted a collection that might be worth alot of money someday, I would be purchasing the metal miniatures.

Now if my attitude makes me gullible (hook, line and sinker) in yours or anybody else's eyes, so be it. Remember this. I am spending the money I earn on a product I want.

[Cruizin2000]

I'm one of the now 11 "damn the torpedos" buyers. I'm not as critical with these toys (tanks and ships) as some people are. If I like the minis, I can live with some of the goofs. Now I'm not excusing WOTC for the goof's made in the past. I hope they don't make any more in the future. But if they do, it's not that big of a deal to me. I can live with it. If they ever do something that I can't live with. I'll send my complaint to Customer Service, sell of my collection and be done with it. I won't raise a stink on these boards because I'm not that emotionally attached to these toy soldiers and tanks. I also believe in fighting my own battles. If I'm dissatisfied with this or any other product, I'll fight with my wallet.

The bottom line is this. I buy AAM as toys to play war games. Althought they are advertised as collectables. To me, they are not. They are just toys. If I wanted a collection that might be worth alot of money someday, I would be purchasing the metal miniatures.

Now if my attitude makes me gullible (hook, line and sinker) in yours or anybody else's eyes, so be it. Remember this. I am spending the money I earn on a product I want.


I'm not putting anyone down here. I'm just surprised at how many people are wanting to buy this without knowing too much about it other than the theme, price, booster/starter contents, and the quick start rules. This game still sounds alot like Avalance Press' naval game series - ALOT like it other than the ship minis.

You can spend your hard earned cash on whatever makes you happy - I do. I do believe it seeing a whole lot more about this game before I get all crazy about it. The theme is cool but the quick start rules are telling me that I already have this game.

Metal minis are cool if you don't have to paint/assemble them. I have a rather large collection of metal minis that I use for wargaming - if you consider 1/32 minis. Toys rock!! I love toys!! A&A minis is like one big expensive army set - with rules.

Let's wait and see what this game will bring to the party. If they rules suck, the pieces might be worth buying for use in General Quarters or some other miniature naval game rule set.

C2000

[Muenchausen]

Let's wait and see what this game will bring to the party. If they rules suck, the pieces might be worth buying for use in General Quarters or some other miniature naval game rule set.

C2000

And this is where I'm coming from. If WAS minis are nothing but a plastic blob that kind of represents a ship. Then I'll be gone. But I don't think WOTC will produce something of such poor quality. But if they do produce another goof like the "mesospit" or the "hellcat" blunder, thats not that big of a deal to me. If I don't like the rules I have no problem using someone else's.

Since you collect metal models you have first hand knowledge of the disparity in price compared to WOTC plastic models. That's another reason why I'm in.

[Cruizin2000]

And this is where I'm coming from. If WAS minis are nothing but a plastic blob that kind of represents a ship. Then I'll be gone. But I don't think WOTC will produce something of such poor quality. But if they do produce another goof like the "mesospit" or the "hellcat" blunder, thats not that big of a deal to me. If I don't like the rules I have no problem using someone else's.

Since you collect metal models you have first hand knowledge of the disparity in price compared to WOTC plastic models. That's another reason why I'm in.

I pay about $14.99 per 1/32 scale tank and $9.99 per 1/32 6 figure sets. As for the Hellcat and Spitschmidt, c'mon, they shouldn't let these get by the QA guys. I would've had someone's behind for that mistake.

C2000

[Muenchausen]

As for the Hellcat and Spitschmidt, c'mon, they shouldn't let these get by the QA guys. I would've had someone's behind for that mistake.

C2000
I'm not excusing them for these blunders. Who knows. Maybe somebody did get canned for these mistakes.

[Photoner Hawkwind]

Reserved 2 cases and 2 starters. If I don't like. Off to the bay of e.


p.s. They are ships... NOT boats.

BTW Can anyone say Toy boat 5 times very fast? :D

[Photoner Hawkwind]

I'm not putting anyone down here. I'm just surprised at how many people are wanting to buy this without knowing too much about it other than the theme, price, booster/starter contents, and the quick start rules. This game still sounds alot like Avalance Press' naval game series - ALOT like it other than the ship minis.

You can spend your hard earned cash on whatever makes you happy - I do. I do believe it seeing a whole lot more about this game before I get all crazy about it. The theme is cool but the quick start rules are telling me that I already have this game.

Metal minis are cool if you don't have to paint/assemble them. I have a rather large collection of metal minis that I use for wargaming - if you consider 1/32 minis. Toys rock!! I love toys!! A&A minis is like one big expensive army set - with rules.

Let's wait and see what this game will bring to the party. If they rules suck, the pieces might be worth buying for use in General Quarters or some other miniature naval game rule set.

C2000

It looks like most are going to sample it and see if they like it or not. At least that is the poll leader right now.

[warspite]

I'm another of the collectors who intends to buy the lot. I like naval, and so I'm a TRUE collector - I collect for the sake of HAVING, not for the resale potential. (My wife is the opposite, and keeps wishing I would throw away my "old" stuff.) Right now, I'm anticipating a similar development to the A&A land minis. I was a little reserved about them at first, but once I started playing, I was finding they had more and more to them than the rule book reveals. The interplay of SA's is the substance of the game, and with each new set more gaps were filled, and more new strategies develop (aside from the occasional wazoo results). So, if WaS is similar, the real game is in the SA's, rather than the simple rules framework.

In any event, I'm interested in collecting a number of (hopefully) cool minis, and having a game, to boot! I already have two seven-foot shelves full of Transformers. A game based on them would rock! :)

[Predator666]

I'm to broke to afford any new game addictions. If someone gets it I'll play it but I'll stick with AnAM.

[shousa]

I'm starting with a case of boosters and 2 starters. If I like it or fail to pull an Iowa with which to adorn my desk when I'm not playing, I'll probably buy a second case. Further pruchases will only happen if my girlfriend and I both like the game and we find ourselves short on some pieces, such as heavy crusiers.

[cannonfodder]

So far its 49 to 34 for those who buy at least some WaS. If this is true then why doesn't WaS have it's own board yet? That way at least we can go to a board that is actually talking about a game that we actually want to play.
No offense meant guys but over 1/2 the threads are about WaS, including this one.

[Stojakovic]

Wait till january...ish. When we have more info and things to talk about. Right now its mostly all specualtion which more than half will end false. As soon as we get somethings that are facts to talk about we will get a WAS forum.

[InsertWittyNameHere]

I would have to say that I will have to wait and see what the game brings to the table. As much as I like the A&A name, I found myself not liking seabourne warfare as much. I still have to work on completing my collection from AAM. I spent more money on it than I wish to remember.

[Richter von Manthofen]

I am with option 1, but might add that I am scaling down my buys a bit (only half of reserves compared to the other Sets)

It seems that the core gamers (HHR fans) are the most critical of all :D

Guys and Gals? the game is not that bad - make historical builds like some of us do, agree (gentlemanlike) to let the cheese out, houserule the worst bugs - and enjoy the game.

I will try to focus on only a few navies, which I still don't know, but if Italy gets a good share I will focus on the med, so rejoyce you pacific warriors I will trade you my Japanese and US pieces (well most of them...)

[RBloom0566]

I'm to broke to afford any new game addictions. If someone gets it I'll play it but I'll stick with AnAM.

Nonsense! Do you have children? A wife? A car? You obviously have a computer. Probably have blood. I see no reason why you can't invest in WaS! Plenty of money-making opportunities right there selling things off! :eek:

[RBloom0566]

I'm starting with a case of boosters and 2 starters. If I like it or fail to pull an Iowa with which to adorn my desk when I'm not playing, I'll probably buy a second case. Further pruchases will only happen if my girlfriend and I both like the game and we find ourselves short on some pieces, such as heavy crusiers.

Guy's got a girlfriend who plays A&A Minis and soon WaS with him!
What a punk!!! :p

[shousa]

Guy's got a girlfriend who plays A&A Minis and soon WaS with him!
What a punk!!! :p

At the risk of inflamign serious jealousy I should point out that she not only enjoys playing AAM (though her preferene for the big German tanks borders on the disturbing) but also helps pay for the addictive plastic. Just today she bought 2 boosters of D-Day in the hopes of getting me somr of the British pieces I've been dying for. Alas, she got a Vet Tiger and I got more repeats of the Inspiring Hero and Concealed Forward Observer. Oh well. At least I finally got a Priest.

[RBloom0566]

At the risk of inflamign serious jealousy I should point out that she not only enjoys playing AAM (though her preferene for the big German tanks borders on the disturbing) but also helps pay for the addictive plastic. Just today she bought 2 boosters of D-Day in the hopes of getting me somr of the British pieces I've been dying for. Alas, she got a Vet Tiger and I got more repeats of the Inspiring Hero and Concealed Forward Observer. Oh well. At least I finally got a Priest.

Good thing, you'll need one (a Priest, that is...the real kind...didn't even know you were Catholic) against the Vet Tiger.

[shousa]

Good thing, you'll need one (a Priest, that is...the real kind...didn't even know you were Catholic) against the Vet Tiger.

I figure the first game or 2 will hurt, especially because she'll want to pair it with an ammo Depot and a horde of SS. After that, things shouldn't be as bad since she likes a little variety in her builds. We've been experimenting with year restrictions lately, though I don't know how much that will help since the next battle chronologically would be 1942.

[RBloom0566]

I figure the first game or 2 will hurt, especially because she'll want to pair it with an ammo Depot and a horde of SS. After that, things shouldn't be as bad since she likes a little variety in her builds. We've been experimenting with year restrictions lately, though I don't know how much that will help since the next battle chronologically would be 1942.

The forecast? Heavy precipitation from the Vet Tiger, with a high pressure front of SSPG's moving into the area and becomming stationary. A severe weather advisory is in effect.

[Lagduf]

I will buy a starter and two boosters and then go from there.

I was VERY dissapointed with Star Wars Miniatures: Starship Battles, so much in fact that I will be purchasing War at Sea (especially after reading the ruleset). Originally I thought WaS would be out of my budget due to playing Starship Battles but after playing the game i've changed my mind.

SSB should have had a ruleset more like WaS, but unfortunately it did not.

As much as i love star wars I cant justify spending my money on a game with a subpar ruleset (the minis are beautiful though).

[Moderator Sinister]

just a couple of observations:

1. In reference to star wars, I think the starships have a whole other market, that is the role players. Like DnD those miniatures will appeal to the role playing market.

2. I'm a pacific fan, I can't beleive how many people on these boards are european theater only guys. The pacific is filled with cool battles.

3. I can't wait to visit this thread in 3 months and see if anyone ended up changing their mind.

[Muenchausen]

Well, I'm going to call it at this point. Thanks to all who voted. There may be a few more votes coming but I don't think it will be enough to skew the results. If there are, I'll edit the numbers in this post. Out of 6067 members, 605 viewed the thread and 105 opted to vote. Nineteen voters, less than 20% want nothing to do with WAS. The other 80% are divided into 3 catagories. Thirty six voters, 34% will be conservative in their purchase. Maybe a starter and a couple of boosters to start out with. Twenty six voters, 25% will not buy immediately but will take a wait and see approach. Twenty four voters, 23% are going to buy as much as they want.

Theres no way of knowing if these numbers accuarately represent the buying public or if they represent the board members. And even if they do we have no idea what WOTC plans on manufacturing.

I think its a good sign that 57% are willing to buy immediately and 25% are remaining open minded. I hope WAS will be as successful as AAM.

[johnnyonthespot]

You should have put another option on there:

Yes, if I get massive wads of disposable income!

[Maus]

I will buy a starter and two boosters and then go from there.

I was VERY dissapointed with Star Wars Miniatures: Starship Battles, so much in fact that I will be purchasing War at Sea (especially after reading the ruleset). Originally I thought WaS would be out of my budget due to playing Starship Battles but after playing the game i've changed my mind.

SSB should have had a ruleset more like WaS, but unfortunately it did not.

As much as i love star wars I cant justify spending my money on a game with a subpar ruleset (the minis are beautiful though).

Lagduf,
What don't you like about the SW SSB rule set? I'm about to buy it but now you have me worried.
M.

[RBloom0566]

just a couple of observations:

2. I'm a pacific fan, I can't beleive how many people on these boards are european theater only guys. The pacific is filled with cool battles.

3. I can't wait to visit this thread in 3 months and see if anyone ended up changing their mind.

2. I agree. Guadalcanal, Bouganville, Phillipines, Okinawa, Tarawa, Papua/New Guinea, Borneo, Sumatra, Singapore...all great battlefields not yet represented sufficiently w/ scenarios. But then, it's hard to build a jungle scenario when you don't have appropriate company map support.

*Edit*...wouldn't mind seeing a wintery one (map and scenario) for the Aleutians Campaign, either.

3. Ditto. Guess that rests solely on the quality of product WotC puts out. I am ambivilent on that point.

[Joisey]

I voted "All Ahead 1/3rd". I'm also ordering deck hands to the bow of the ship to look Messospit Mines and Softresin Torpedos. But for right now, I'm liking what I'm seeing and reading, so I anticipate a modest purchase in the future.

[Stojakovic]

just a couple of observations:

1. In reference to star wars, I think the starships have a whole other market, that is the role players. Like DnD those miniatures will appeal to the role playing market.

2. I'm a pacific fan, I can't beleive how many people on these boards are european theater only guys. The pacific is filled with cool battles.

3. I can't wait to visit this thread in 3 months and see if anyone ended up changing their mind.


I just like ships. I would be playing pirates as my main game. But I don't like that the minis break too often. So AAM became my #1 game.

[Kaufschtick]

I'll wait and see how this game looks and see what I read on theses boards before buying. I would anticipate that reviews will be good and that I'll be buying.

[Cruizin2000]

I'll wait and see how this game looks and see what I read on theses boards before buying. I would anticipate that reviews will be good and that I'll be buying.


I thought that we voted that TA would be buying this one? Cool, WAS minis is on you. BTW, did you hit the lottery? Or filed for divorce? :D

C2000

[Lagduf]

just a couple of observations:

1. In reference to star wars, I think the starships have a whole other market, that is the role players. Like DnD those miniatures will appeal to the role playing market.

2. I'm a pacific fan, I can't beleive how many people on these boards are european theater only guys. The pacific is filled with cool battles.

3. I can't wait to visit this thread in 3 months and see if anyone ended up changing their mind.

It is true that SSB will appeal to the roleplayer, I think that was a good move by WotC to include stats for the minis to be used with their rp system.

I'm dying too see more pacific oriented minis for AAM. WaS will hopefully cure this. Wouldn't it be cool if WaS and regular AAM could be combined?

As a pacfic fan have you played this board game:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/17484

Silent War by Compass games. It's a solitaire submarine campaign against the Japanese from '41-'45. It has recieved high marks and rave reviews. My copy is in the mail at the moment.

Lagduf,
What don't you like about the SW SSB rule set? I'm about to buy it but now you have me worried.
M.

Have you read the rules available online?

It is just a little bit too simple for my tastes.

In my last post I think I came of as sounding like I thought SSB was a bad game. It is not a bad game, it just did not live up to my expectations, and while I will play it I wont devote as much money to it as I have to other games.

I would rate AAM as a better game.

[Muenchausen]

The number of voters has increased but the stats have stayed almost the same so I'll hold of changing my post.

[Lotus]

I'll try it. I will regularly buy AAM either way because that's part of my fun allowance.

Plus, my dad was in the navy during WWII and there's an interest there because of that.

But not to the point of needing more than one Yorktown. There is a limit. 'course I could scratch off the name and collect by class. ;)

1/3 ahead.

[hornet69]

I'll try it. I will regularly buy AAM either way because that's part of my fun allowance.

Plus, my dad was in the navy during WWII and there's an interest there because of that.

But not to the point of needing more than one Yorktown. There is a limit. 'course I could scratch off the name and collect by class. ;)

1/3 ahead.
and the sailor sailor outfit he wears every saturday.who would have thought that

[GreekPartisan]

On a theoretical level, I am interested in WaS, and any
other WW II game.
I looked up the quick introduction to the rules,
and they seem to be workable.
However, I don't know if I can afford to pursue this miniature
hobby, in addition to AAM.
Since we only play official WoC and HBF scenarios,
I have been selling off my comics collection to fund the "need"
for dozens of Ha-Go, T34/76, Sdkfz 251, M4A1 Shermans, and so on.
I get these from boosters, which in Greece sell for 15 Euro (19 $)...

[Muenchausen]

just a couple of observations:

1. In reference to star wars, I think the starships have a whole other market, that is the role players. Like DnD those miniatures will appeal to the role playing market.

2. I'm a pacific fan, I can't beleive how many people on these boards are european theater only guys. The pacific is filled with cool battles.

3. I can't wait to visit this thread in 3 months and see if anyone ended up changing their mind.

You won't have to wait that long. After seeing the pictures of the Yamato there already changing thier minds.

[dracos42]

Originally Posted by Moderator Sinister
just a couple of observations:

1. In reference to star wars, I think the starships have a whole other market, that is the role players. Like DnD those miniatures will appeal to the role playing market.

2. I'm a pacific fan, I can't beleive how many people on these boards are european theater only guys. The pacific is filled with cool battles.

3. I can't wait to visit this thread in 3 months and see if anyone ended up changing their mind.

You won't have to wait that long. After seeing the pictures of the Yamato there already changing thier minds.

I'm a naval gamer and I will buy WAS.

The Pacific has lots of cool naval battles. Lots of ground action too. Of course, there were no big tank battles, no heavy tanks involved, and of course, no guys in snazzy black SS uniforms. Plus I think a lot of the European oriented gamers don't think the Pacific was all that important.

Mike L.

[Muenchausen]

Just postin to the top

[horacus]

The Yamato is cool, but the freaking planes are awfull.

[Avoll]

O boy I am sure delighted this made it back to the top, I was just thinking we didn’t have enough polls floating around. :)

[Tripwire]

My son bought a couple of D&D miniatures booster packs.
Same company, WOTC.
The sculpts and the paintjobs are amazing.
One has to wonder if A&A minis got the second-string Chinese factory. :eek:
Obviously, the D&D factory puts out some excellent work, why the problems with A&A, whether it be the ground game or WAS? :rolleyes:
Inquiring minds want to know...

[Muenchausen]

I brought this back and requested it be transfered to the AANM board. So please, don't have a cow, this shouldn't be here much longer. Have a good AANM free day. :D

[Tom_Weasle]

A&A minis costs alot of money and WAS is going to cost even MORE money to do it right. Besides, I love my beautiful wife and divorce is even MORE expensive. ;)

C2000

I with you on this one.

[Cruizin2000]

I with you on this one.

Take a look at the list of ships coming out in the first set and see what historical battles that you can do with them - not many. The Battle of the River Plate maybe. Other than that, it's just like Anachronism with ships.

C2000

[Muenchausen]

When I posted this poll we were able to see who voted an what catagory. I wanted to run another poll to see who, if any, changed their mind from a couple of months ago. Since we can no longer view who voted for what, it's become pointless to post another poll.

[Kaufschtick]

I'm leaning heavily toward a couple cases. If you want to talk about expensive though, this is going to be just that. At 64 pieces in a set and only 5 pieces per booster...it's going to take alot of loot to just complete a set, let alone get whatever doubles, triples you may want.

Anyone know of any sites selling cases at decent prices? I'm just a poor white boy here, I've got to watch my pennies!:D

[Stealth]

I'm leaning heavily toward a couple cases. If you want to talk about expensive though, this is going to be just that. At 64 pieces in a set and only 5 pieces per booster...it's going to take alot of loot to just complete a set, let alone get whatever doubles, triples you may want.

Anyone know of any sites selling cases at decent prices? I'm just a poor white boy here, I've got to watch my pennies!:D

PM Sent, Kaufy!

[Muenchausen]

Stealth, share the wealth. I'm always looking for less expensive venders.

[Kaufschtick]

PM Sent, Kaufy!

Tango-Yankee! Thanks for the Heads Up!

[Joisey]

Arrgh! Soft Resin Torpedo hit amidships! No Messospit Mines sighted yet. My eyes are blinded by over-exposed flash photos, so it's still all ahead 1/3.

[Kaufschtick]

Arrgh! Soft Resin Torpedo hit amidships! No Messospit Mines sighted yet. My eyes are blinded by over-exposed flash photos, so it's still all ahead 1/3.

Well, actually, the cool thing about the airplanes being so small you can't really distinguish them apart means that they could actually have another Spitschmitt incident and nobody would be able to tell!:eek:

"Engine room, give me flank speed!":)

[Muenchausen]

Well, actually, the cool thing about the airplanes being so small you can't really distinguish them apart means that they could actually have another Spitschmitt incident and nobody would be able to tell!:eek:

"Engine room, give me flank speed!":)
Don't give up hope yet. We have alot of minis to preview. I'm sure there will be one or two mistakes.:D

[kaz]

all in love WWII and love sea battels

[Bigblue2]

I fell in love with this game, as soon as I read the rules, posted on the web-site, prior to ever buying a starter. :D

[Joisey]

But will the love last for a whole year before Set II comes out? :D

[Uncle_Joe]

But will the love last for a whole year before Set II comes out?

Unfortunately, I tend to doubt it but we can hope. :)

[Muenchausen]

I wished we could see how everyone voted. It was originally set up that way.

[Kaufschtick]

I wished we could see how everyone voted. It was originally set up that way.

Yeah, I wish I could too. It's is wierd, because from one of my posts I guess I went with Flank Speed, which isn't even in the options...:D

Hell, I don't even know what flank speed is...I'm more of an aircraft person. Which then begs the question, "what am I doing buying a ship game?".

Er, I guess it does have little airplanes in it though . Although I do find myself more and more having to resist the urge to swat them with a rolled up newspaper...they're so little teeny tiny!:D

[IXJac]

I guess I'm at Flank Speed myself, since I only stopped buying boosters (at a rate of at least 1 every time I stopped by the games store) when the store ran out. I think I was sold when I opened up my first starter and saw a little squadron of planes in a protective plastic sheath. That little detail had a really positive effect on me.

The air rules are probably the biggest reason I like the game - they're simple, but make carrier battles tons of fun. Overall I think that with a few house ruled tweaks the game has some real legs.

[Kaufschtick]

I guess I'm at Flank Speed myself, since I only stopped buying boosters (at a rate of at least 1 every time I stopped by the games store) when the store ran out. I think I was sold when I opened up my first starter and saw a little squadron of planes in a protective plastic sheath. That little detail had a really positive effect on me.

The air rules are probably the biggest reason I like the game - they're simple, but make carrier battles tons of fun. Overall I think that with a few house ruled tweaks the game has some real legs.

Agreed. I was checking out that you have come up with some house rules for the destroyers in another thread, I'm going to have to check those out this weekend.

Otherwise, I'm good with the game and the money spent thus far!:)

[Maynard James Keenan]

Who are the 9 Gung Ho "damn the torpedos" buyers?

So far, about 20% of the voters are going for this hook, line, and sinker. Buyer beware...

C2000


I was searching for something on the forums and this came.....

Look how popular this game is....... :)

Yes. I had to say this.

One of the best games out there (non-video)