Platoon suggestions here please.

[EricM 2404]

Hi all I think we should put all platoon suggestions in one place for quick referance for those whom are interested.


Here are some suggestions on what I think would be excepted by the guys at R&D

-It seems as though the platoons should consist of 5 units.

-platoons should give a Sams club discount for units deemed- (overpriced/underpowered)

-Platoons should be single nation entities.

-Platoons aren't necessarily "historical platoons" they are more like units that work together

-Of course these are just my guide-lines that I will be using, feel free to post whatever you want.

- Maybe we could use a template to keep it simple-copy=

Platoon Name. = Cost pts. ~
Unit Names-x?
Unit Names-x?
Unit Names-x?

[EricM 2404]

German tank hunters. = 60pts. ~
Jagdpanther x1
Panzerfaust x4

Volkstrum. = 20pts. ~
(counts as five units)
volkstrum infantry x8
panzerfaust x1

Mechanized infantry. = 30pts.~
sdkfz 251 x2
Panzergrenadier x3

[Major Adler]

Luftwaffe Inf. Plt. = 19 pts. ~
Hauptsturmfurher
Luftwaffe Inf. x3
MG-42

Russian SMG Plt.= 12 pts. ~
Comissar
PPSh x4

[Colonel_Panic]

-It seems as though the platoons should consist of 5 units.
Sounds good
-platoons should give a Sams club discount for units deemed- (overpriced/underpowered)
Agreed
-Platoons should be single nation entities.
Agreed
-Platoons aren't necessarily "historical platoons" they are more like units that work together
Depends on what you mean with work together.
SS HF and three Kar-98 and a Veteran Inf is OK.
Two KV-1s, two Cossac Captains is not.

[EricM 2404]

[B]-Platoons aren't necessarily "historical platoons" they are more like units that work together
Depends on what you mean with work together.
SS HF and three Kar-98 and a Veteran Inf is OK.
Two KV-1s, two Cossac Captains is not.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aam/ah20051005c
fire teams, its an oldie but it's the jist of the statement.
more or less I just wanted to state that these are Platoons in name only, a convenient way of recosting mis-judged units.
in my opinion the Kv1 doesn't need a boost the things practicly invulnrable.

[polish_horsy]

UK hodge-podge bunch of $hit thrown together platoon:

PIAT
Royal Engineers
Concealed Forward Observer
17 pounder
6 pounder

cost = 30

(if the point is to just make up crap to get the junk out of the tackle box and onto the table? well heck why not go full boar on the subject then eh.)

[Colonel_Panic]

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aam/ah20051005c
fire teams, its an oldie but it's the jist of the statement.
more or less I just wanted to state that these are Platoons in name only, a convenient way of recosting mis-judged units.
in my opinion the Kv1 doesn't need a boost the things practicly invulnrable.

Yes, I agree and understand, but there have been several ideas here about "marrying pieces" together that doesnt have anything in common, I opposed that idea. Fireteams, or kampfgrüppes (which could be from anything a tank with some support up to a regiment sized entities, the latter excluded from this game) is a good idea with a root in history. The germans were experts in throwing together whatever units they could grab, give the a leader and they fought the best of the best (like when a small size unit from 22 different elements) stood up against 1st airborn outside arnhem.

[polish_horsy]

Red Army random overpriced units platoon:

PTRD-41
Soviet Grenadier
sniper
forward observer

cost = 16

[Cpt. John Miller]

U.S. Mobile Assult Platoon: 50 points
M4A3E8 "Easy Eight" x1
M20 75mm Recoilless Rifle x1
Thompson Gunner x1
Jeep x1

[polish_horsy]

Wehrmacht bunch of vehicles lying in the tackle box platoon:

Panzer II C
Panzer II F
Sd Kfz 251
sIG 33
Pnzrjgr Bren
Sd Kfz 222

cost = 57

[Uncle_Joe]

Wehrmacht bunch of vehicles lying in the tackle box platoon:

Lol...love that designation. ;)

[polish_horsy]

and of course...

infantry stuff I'd never otherwise use platoon:

Oberlt
Pak 38
Panzrgrndr x 3

cost = 26

[EricM 2404]

Yes, I agree and understand, but there have been several ideas here about "marrying pieces" together that doesnt have anything in common, I opposed that idea. Fireteams, or kampfgrüppes (which could be from anything a tank with some support up to a regiment sized entities, the latter excluded from this game) is a good idea with a root in history. The germans were experts in throwing together whatever units they could grab, give the a leader and they fought the best of the best (like when a small size unit from 22 different elements) stood up against 1st airborn outside arnhem.

yep, this is what I meant
coherant forces that work in logical groups

[EricM 2404]

Russian artillery = 35pts
Red Army Foward Observer x2
82mm PM-37 Mortar x2
BM-13 Katyusha Rocket Launcher x1

[Colonel_Panic]

German Panzer Scout Platoon
1 PzKpfw 38(t)
2 sdkfz 222
2 BMW 75
25 points

[polish_horsy]

All the American Units should be cheap platoon:

M3 Lee
Amtrack
Forw. Observer Jeep
Easy 8
M7 Priest
Hunting Sniper

Cost = 120

[shadowhooch]

I guess I'm in the minority; but I find it rather cumbersome to sift through a hundred different platoons looking for the right combo for my build. I tend to build armies around a few select units that I want to use. For example, I'll say, "I'd like to use a Pershing this battle." So I pick the Pershing and then build around it to round out the force. With platoons, it seems a little harder to find the units you are looking for.

Albeit, it is definitely a completely different way to play the game. And maybe I just need to warm up to it. Just making sure this is the path we really want to go down.

I suppose I'm less of a strict "historical" player and more of a "game" player. (No, I didn't say "power" game. Just "game" as in simple yet historic.)

[EricM 2404]

I guess I'm in the minority; but I find it rather cumbersome to sift through a hundred different platoons looking for the right combo for my build. I tend to build armies around a few select units that I want to use. For example, I'll say, "I'd like to use a Pershing this battle." So I pick the Pershing and then build around it to round out the force. With platoons, it seems a little harder to find the units you are looking for.

Albeit, it is definitely a completely different way to play the game. And maybe I just need to warm up to it.

I suppose I'm less of a strict "historical" player and more of a "game" player. (No, I didn't say "power" game. Just "game" as in simple yet historic.)

You can still do that. When using platoons you don't use just platoons. I'd think you would like it if you read them over again. You could start with a pershing, for instance, and then pick up a US platoon or two. You can get more units for the points you spend, which you need if you want a pershing

[polish_horsy]

I guess I'm in the minority; but I find it rather cumbersome to sift through a hundred different platoons looking for the right combo for my build.

no... you are not in the minority.

[EricM 2404]

An army for you as an example

1x Pershing

2xTank obstical
2x Barbed wire

American Infantry Platoon: = 16 points
1x "Red Devil" Captain
2x M1 Garand Rifle
1x Bazooka
1x BAR Gunner

American Infantry Platoon: = 16 points
1x "Red Devil" Captain
2x M1 Garand Rifle
1x Bazooka
1x BAR Gunner

100pts 15 units
and thats a pretty solid army

[Latro]

I prefer realistic platoons, but that doesn't mean I think they should create a discount-platoon for every possible unit. A lot of them can be left to the players themselves to mix and match.

I think they should concentrate on a limite number of generic platoons that provide a viable alternative to the known powerunits. SS Panzergrenadiers seem to be a must-have unit, so create a cheap Mauser-based platoon:

4x Mauser
1x MG 42

... which also happens to closely resemble "the real thing" (which makes the nitpicker in me very happy).

2x SdKfz 250
2x Panzergrenadier

... with a discount to make mechanized infantry more interesting.

No need for every possible combination to be pre-set. Just the bread and butter units, leave the rest to us.


:cool:

[EricM 2404]

I don't think anyone is going to go overboard with platoons. It is pretty much just as you said, alterntives to the "Elites".

[Uncle_Joe]

I prefer 'realisitic' platoons too. But one thing to keep in mind is that many player dont have access to unlimited models. Even 8 Mausers can be a stretch for many players. The same goes for multiples of rare armor as well.

So, where possible (and plausible), I'd prefer if the 'platoons' were more like 'battlegroups' with a theme (AT, Eng, Recon, Inf, Asslt etc etc). That way they can be mixed and matches a little better based on models and game balance rather than worrying more about any form of historic TO&E.

[Qmark]

But one thing to keep in mind is that many player dont have access to unlimited models. Even 8 Mausers can be a stretch for many players. The same goes for multiples of rare armor as well.So this one is probably right out, eh?

Sea of Soviets:
45x Mosin-Nagant
100 points

[NorthernRommel]

I think they should concentrate on a limite number of generic platoons that provide a viable alternative to the known powerunits. SS Panzergrenadiers seem to be a must-have unit, so create a cheap Mauser-based platoon:

4x Mauser
1x MG 42

... which also happens to closely resemble "the real thing" (which makes the nitpicker in me very happy).

:cool:

I agree, and that does work better.

If you want a sample of what I mean then click on my sig link. I put up a sample of platoon cards for the Japanese there. It shows a series of cards that can be randomly drawn, or placed face down on the board to create a Fog of War kind of scenario. They are designed to be playable within a 100 pt game or a 300pt game. The key is to use them in a random fashion, not simply pick them as units are built now.

Using platoon cards and variations on that theme creates many options for play. Even when paired with the basic rules alone.

[Qmark]

Random platoons...

Engineers:
1 AVRE
4x Royal Engineers
actual cost: 65
Platoon cost: 50 (77%)

Semper Fi:
1x Sherman 105
2x Marine Flamethrower
2x Marine Rifleman
actual cost: 40
Platoon cost 30 (75%)

Juno Landing:
1x Sherman DD
1x Eagle-Eyed NCO
3x Canadian Infantryman
actual cost: 40
Platoon cost: 30 (75%)

Afrika Korps:
1x PzKfw 4G
1x Wehrmacht Oberleutnant
1x MG42
2x Mauser
actual cost: 59
Platoon Cost: 45 (76%)

[Colonel_Coo]

SD-KFZ-251
MG-42
SD-KFZ-250
Pak-40
Standard PanzerGrenadier x2
Price: 39.
Unit Count: 5


three of the worst German units bound together with 1 good one and cheap transport. Normal cost 60 with 6 units. Reduced to 39 pts and 5 units.

Double it up, bring in a WOL, a spare 250 and 2 barbwire for 100 points.

[Qmark]

Suppose we upcost platoons to compensate for flagrantly violating unit limits?

Miles o' Wire
15x Barbed Wire
unit count: 5
Platoon cost: 10 (133%)

A Really Defended Fortress
10x Fortress Defender
unit count: 5
Platoon cost: 25 (125%)

Defensive Fortifications
10x Barbed Wire
10x Tank Obstacle
3x Pillbox
2x Minefield
unit count: 5
Platoon cost: 50 (200%)

[polish_horsy]

Suppose we upcost platoons to compensate for flagrantly violating unit limits?

Miles o' Wire
15x Barbed Wire
unit count: 5
Platoon cost: 10 (133%)

A Really Defended Fortress
10x Fortress Defender
unit count: 5
Platoon cost: 25 (125%)

Defensive Fortifications
10x Barbed Wire
10x Tank Obstacle
3x Pillbox
2x Minefield
unit count: 5
Platoon cost: 50 (200%)

Reminds me of a sign I saw at a tavern. It said "hard boiled eggs 25 cents each. or 3 for a dollar."

[bluedionysius]

I was thinking that crosstraining in a platoon might provide some use for lower point soldiers. Let's say a machine gun team or mortar team gets hit. You could roll a die and 1-2 the weapon is destroyed and 3-6 one of the team is destroyed. An adajacent unit could step up to feed the ammo and keep the weapon deploy. What do you think?

[Qmark]

Hungarian Armored Platoon
2x Turan I
2x 8mm Huzagol 35M
1x Tenacious Officer
actual cost: 34
Platoon cost: 25 (74%)

Polish Armored-Infantry Platoon
2x 7TPdw
3x Determined Infantrymen
actual cost: 28
Platoon cost: 20 (71%)

[Yankee_Dynasty]

American Platoon
3-Garnand
2-BAR
1-Thompson Gunner
1-Red Devil Captain

There- DREAM TEAM The BARS could suppress anything that comes there way, while the garnands get 1 extra attack dice and the TGunner for when things get close. The BAR's SA makes winning inititave more important so the commanders bonus is nice.

[carl_brisgamer]

Panzergrenadier recon platoon:
1 x Wehrmacht Oberleutnant (13)
1 x Panzergrenadier (5)
2 x Sdkfz 250 (16)
1 x Sdkfz 222 (8)

Unit cost: 42 points
Platoon cost: 30 points (71.4%)

[DocD]

Wehrmacht bunch of vehicles lying in the tackle box platoon:

Panzer II C
Panzer II F
Sd Kfz 251
sIG 33
Pnzrjgr Bren
Sd Kfz 222

cost = 57

LOL :D
That's pretty funny horsy

[Qmark]

The French Surrender
1x Bold Captian
2x Lebel
2x Free French
actual cost: 19
Platoon cost: 10 (53%)

[Vikingwarrior]

SS A*# kicking platoon:

2 SS Hauptstumführer
1 SS Panther Ausf. G
4 SS Panzergrenadier
1 SS Panzer IV Ausf. F2
4 SS Stormtrooper


Regular cost 143 Kick A*% cost 100

[dracos42]

Philippine Scout platoon.

1 BAR
4 Buffalo soliders
1 Red Devil captain.
20 pts.

US heavy weapons platoon

1 50 cal MG
1 60mm mortar
1 bazooka
1 jeep
1 artillery halftrack
25 pts

USMC assault platoon.

1 flamethrower
1 Thompson SMG
1 bazooka
1 BAR
2 Marine riflemen.
20 pts

[RommeL BombeR 77]

North Africa Tank Platoon= 50 pts
x2 M3 stuart
x3 CrusaderII

Afrika Korps Tank Platoon= 55 pts
X3 PanzerIII
X1 skdfz 11 Halftrack
X1 puma
X1 SS Hampsterfury
X1 Fuel Depot

USMC Platoon= 20 pts
X3 USMC Riflemen
X1 RDC
X1 USMC Flamer
X1 BAR

German Sniper Team = 20pts
X2 Wercher experts

German Anti tank unit =
X2 Pak 40
X1 Oberlutnat
X2 Cheaper SKDFZ ger halftrack

Command Platoon= 35 pts
X1 HQ
X1 SS Hampster./ Cossac cpt./ RDC / (anyother officer w/ initiative)
X4 Vet/ SS/ Elite infantry (SSPGs, WVIs, Tampon Stabbers, Rangers)

Artillery battery= 45 pts
X3 heavy Arty units (81mm etc)
X1 FO
X1 Ammo Dump

[Lotus]

Greek Plato-on:

Ariska stotle x 3
Thrasymachinegunnus x 1
Hero-clitus (only 1 allowed)
Veteran Philosopher x 2
Flavius Defender x 4
Stoic Lieutenant x 1
Pythagorean Partisan x 2

Note: This platoon is not intended for use in quick games.

[Yankee_Dynasty]

Greek Plato-on:

Ariska stotle x 3
Thrasymachinegunnus x 1
Hero-clitus (only 1 allowed)
Veteran Philosopher x 2
Flavius Defender x 4
Stoic Lieutenant x 1
Pythagorean Partisan x 2

Note: This platoon is not intended for use in quick games.

I lol'd - that must have took some research

[RommeL BombeR 77]

lol sounds more age of empires to me.

[Qmark]

Well, now that we know how Formations really work, let's make up a bunch of random stuff!

Little Katie's Convoy
Soviet Union
60 points
5x BM-13 Katyusha Rocket Launcher
1x Fuel Depot

French Racing Team
France
40 points
4 Panhard et Levassor P 178
1x Fuel Depot

Wehrmacht Mechanized Squad
Germany
42 points
3x Sd Kfz 251
3x Panzergrenadier

[08master]

meaningfully Platoon

US Antitank Infantry Platoon = 30 Points
2x 3"Gun M5
2x M3 Half Track

or
1x 3"Gun M5
1x M20 75mm Recoilless Rifle
1x Bazooka
2x Jeep
1x M3 Half Track

US Artillery Platoon = 52 Points
2x M1 81mm Mortar
1x M7 105mm Priest
2x FO Jeep

US Tank Destroyer Platoon = 50 Points
1x M36 MGC
2x M18 Hellcat

UK North Africa Tank Platoon = 70 Poinst
1x M3 Lee
3x M3 Stuart
2x Crusader II

US Medium Tank Platoon = 55 Points
2x M4A1 Sherman
1x M3 Lee

US Long Range Ifantry Platoon = 18 Points
1x "Red Devil" Captain
1x Vickers MG
2x Mortar M 2

US Anti Infantry Tank Platoon = 59 Points
1x M4A3 (105) Sherman
1x M4 Sherman T-34 Calliope
2x M8 "Greyhound"

UK Tank Covert Infantry Platoon = 58 Points
1x Churchill Crocodile
1x Inspiring Lieutnant
3x SMLE No.4 Rifle
1x Bren MG

UK Defender Platoon = 40 Points
2x Archer
2x Vickers MG

German Fast Platoon = 25 Points
2x BMW R75
2x SDKFZ 250
2x SS Panzergrenadier

[Rick]

I've always been annoyed that the British get an American Tank, while the Americans don't. I'm referring to the 'Stuart'. So, here's my suggetion for an American Light Tank Platoon.

5 M3 Stuarts

Cost: 70 points

Some may argue that a 5 point discount is less than 10% of the orginal total. That's because (in my opinion) that Stuart is one of the better value priced tanks in the game. So I am not very inclined to discount it further.

One unit I WISH would be included in the game is the American 'Scott'. It has the body of the Stuart, with a short barreled 75 mm howitzer for close infantry support for the reconisance/light tank units. But, that will very likely have to wait for some time yet.

Rick

[OIFvet]

I've always been annoyed that the British get an American Tank, while the Americans don't. I'm referring to the 'Stuart'. So, here's my suggetion for an American Light Tank Platoon.

5 M3 Stuarts

Cost: 70 points

Some may argue that a 5 point discount is less than 10% of the orginal total. That's because (in my opinion) that Stuart is one of the better value priced tanks in the game. So I am not very inclined to discount it further.

One unit I WISH would be included in the game is the American 'Scott'. It has the body of the Stuart, with a short barreled 75 mm howitzer for close infantry support for the reconisance/light tank units. But, that will very likely have to wait for some time yet.

Rick

In U.S Military doctrine, the most tanks per platoon would be 4 and those were generally assigned to a head quarters platoon for company. Other than that each platoon would consist of 3 tanks. A tank company would have 13 tanks (3 line platoons with 3 tanks each, plus the HQ platoon which would 4 tanks - 3 sections + commander's tank)

[Heir_Ludendorff]

Most militaries not just US used an armour platoon as 3 vehicles.

[mattertoenergy]

According to http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/Armour/united_states_armored_battalion.htm a full strength U.S. light tank or medium tank platoon would have five tanks. Of course due to combat losses they may operate with less vehicles.

By the way, http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/index.htm is a great site for finding TO&E's, as well as some interesting information on infantry tactics.

[Rick]

[QUOTE=mattertoenergy;297672]According to http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/Armour/united_states_armored_battalion.htm a full strength U.S. light tank or medium tank platoon would have five tanks. Of course due to combat losses they may operate with less vehicles.
QUOTE]


Thanks for the support. I recognize that there will always be some tension between what 'the book' says versus what real world combat conditions were like on the day to day event. My father and brother were Army all the way. I've heard plenty from both of them about what SHOULD be and what really was.

[wilson2]

Originally Posted by shadowhooch
I guess I'm in the minority; but I find it rather cumbersome to sift through a hundred different platoons looking for the right combo for my build.

no... you are not in the minority
agreed. i would much rather have fixed costs that platoons as an ugly bandage. Thats why i like players rules ;)

[Stojakovic_The Great]

Well no worry next year company cards o boy can you feel the excitement

[tzmiskies]

I was looking at some of the proposed platoons and the German Tank Hunter platoon seems really underprices at 56 points. Is this a mistake?

[Colonel_Coo]

Nope. Its that the main tank was WAY overpriced for what it could do.


I was looking at some of the proposed platoons and the German Tank Hunter platoon seems really underprices at 56 points. Is this a mistake?

[RedSpike]

I've been frustrated by the lack of Japanese platoons, since they are one of the worst nations.

INA Anti-Tank Platoon (15 pts/38% discount)
2 47mm Type 1 Antitank Gun
1 Type 97 Antitank Rifle
2 Azad Hind Fauj Infantrymen

SNLF Anti-Infantry Platoon (23 pts/32% discount)
2 Type 89 Mortar
1 Type 92 MG Team
1 Arisaka Rifle
1 SNLF Captain

SNLF Recon Platoon (16 pts/53% discount)
1 Imperial Sniper
2 SNLF Paratroopers
1 Type 97 Te-Ke Tankette
1 Type 2 Ka-Mi Amph. Tank

SNLF Rapid Assault Platoon (20 pts/29% discount)
1 Imperial Sergeant
2 Arisaka Rifle
1 SNLF Paratroopers
1 Type 87 Armored Car

The real problem with the Japanese is that they have a hard time getting to 100 points with a 18 unit limit if you give them a discount.

[fr3d]

Wehrmacht bunch of vehicles lying in the tackle box platoon:

Panzer II C
Panzer II F
Sd Kfz 251
sIG 33
Pnzrjgr Bren
Sd Kfz 222

cost = 57

I'd really rather have a tiger ;)

[Captain Morevo]

Flammpanzer Platoon (25pts)
-4x PzKfw II F

German Elite Hunters (88pts)
-1x Jagdtiger
-2x Jagdpanther

Elite Tiger Platoon (188pts)
-1x King Tiger
-2x Veteran Tiger
-1x Ammo Dump (for those ungodly rolls)

[starttolook]

As Poland was one of the first to buy the US BAR, any thoughts on adding as a 1939 country of use? Polish designation RKM wz. 28

Also, Bofors 40mm was also used (Poland received lic to build from UK in 1935)

I have used the following alternate cards to round out the Polish army:
Russian ATR for the Polish wz. 35 ATR , 4pts
Italian 45mm Mortar for the Polish wz. 36 46mm Mortar, 4pts

Chinese T26 as a Polish 7TP w Bofors 37mm ATG
(ATTack should be 9,7,5 though)

Chinese MG for the Czech 7.92mm vz. 24 mg 6pts
Hungarian 37mm ATG for the Bofors 37mm ATG 5pts
French Bold Captain 7pts

A Polish Cavalry Platoon would be 27pts (from 33pts)
4 Cavalry(Polish), 16pts
1 Kuomintang MG(China), 6pts
1 ATR(Russia), 4pts
1 Bold Captain (French) 7pts

A Polish Rifle Platoon would be 19pts (from 24pts)
3 Mauser KAR 98 (Polish), 9pts
1 BAR (US), 4pts
1 ATR (Russia), 4pts
1 Bold Captain (French)7pts

A Polish BICYCLE Platoon would be 22pts (from 27pts)
(All units have High Gear +2 Entire movement on road, unit gets to Move +2 UNTIL any contact with enemy fire (Hits or Misses i.e. unit is Target for an attack) After being a Target, unit loses High Gear +2 (Use counter attached)
3 Determined Infantrymen (Polish), 16pts
1 BAR (US), 4pts
1 ATR (Russia), 4pts
1 Bold Captain (French)7pts



A Polish heavy support Platoon would be 22pts (from 27pts)
1 46mm Mortar (Italy), 4pts
1 37mm ATG (Hungary), 5pts
1 Cavalry unit (Polish), 4pts
1 Kuomintang MG (China), 5pts
1 75mm French WWI Gun (no AAMini yet) used as support and ATG (maybe use a Bofors 40mm as that would be helpful) 9pts



Looking at a scenario on September 1 1939 where the German 4th Army attacked the Polish 9th Infantry Division in the Tuchola Forrest. It was a good attempt by the Poles to slow down the onslaught of the Germans that was thwarted by outflanking the defensive position by overrunning a Polish Bicycle Company
initial thoughts
Poland
1 Polish Bicycle Platoon 22pts
2 Polish Rifle Platoon 38pts
1 Polish Heavy Support Platoon 22pts

1 7TPdw 8pts (they had TKS units, but this is a good substitute)
2 37mm ATG (Hungary), 10pts
3 82mm PM-37 Mortar (Russian) 33pts
1 Red Army Forward Observer(Russian) 8pts
3 Determined Infantrymen (Polish), 16pts
4 Pillbox
5 Minefield 10pts
3 Tank obstacles

Germany
2 German Inf Platoon 40 pts
2 sGrW 34 81mm Mortar 22pts
3 Pz II
3 PZ III 39 pts
1 Pz IV D l24 18pts
1 sIG 33
3 sdkfz 251 42 pts
3 sdkfz 250 24pts
(inf should be all Truck borne...Artillery and ATG wagons..alas a substitute again and a balancing factor between 251 and 250)

Do not have all of my points figured, just a first go.

Probably Fox Charlie Fox maps
Cheers
Ken

[Heir_Ludendorff]

German '40 Medium Tank Platoon 48 Pts

3x Panzer IIIF
1x Elite Panzer IVD

Normally 57pts
Discount ~16%

French Assault Platoon 30 Pts

1x B1-Bis
1x Bold Captain
1x MAS Rifle
1x Lebel Grenadier

Normally 34pts
Discount ~12%

[raevski]

1944 Atg platoon
2x pak 40 (resita ATG)
2x antitank Grenadier
2x 251 ht
1x Officer

1942 recon platoon
3x 222 A/C

1943 tank platoon
3x t38
1x captured stuart (20 captured during landings)

1942 Medium tank platoon PZ IV
3x PzIV 75mm long barrel
(can be used in 1944/5 as well)

1942 medium tank platoon PZ III
3x PZ III 75mm armed short barrel

1944/5 stug platoon
3x Stug 3 long barreled 75mm