Ideas for pieces in continuing sets?

[Hauptjäger]

What unique or off-the-wall ships would you like to see in the set after the starter set?

I myself want to see Coast Guard cutters! I know that sounds strange, but there were quite a bit of Coast Guard cutters on sub-hunting duty, not to mention Coast Guard manned destroyers and escorts. I'd like to have some pieces like that, if only for the novelty of it.

[Legbiter]

Miniature submarines, perhaps including Japanese suicide submersibles [Kai-ten].

But not too many off-the-wall units, please. There's LOTS of staples that we would like, first!

[dictator_wanna_be]

More aircraft options of course ;)

[Joisey]

How about that proposed super carrier made out of a mixture of ice and sawdust? It can be in a special "mega booster".

Actually, I don't want to see odd ball stuff till Set 6

[Flyboy]

Yea the Pyrite Carrier would be very cool to see! Muahahahaha!!!:D

[Muenchausen]

They had a special on the discovery channel about Ice and one of the segments was on the pykrete carrier. They built a 60 foot prototype in Canada. It took three years for it to melt after they adandoned the project.

[Joisey]

They had a special on the discovery channel about Ice and one of the segments was on the pyrite carrier. They built a 60 foot prototype in Canada. It took three years for it to melt after they adandoned the project.

And it was bullet proof, literally, and probably would have even shrugged off Kamikaze hits---if they could keep it frozen in the Pacific--HA! :D

[offramp]

It's pykrete, not pyrite.

Pykrete is ice stabilized with sawdust or wood pulp:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pycrete

Whereas (iron) pyrite is fool's gold:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrite

Either way, the "Ice Carrier" was a ridiculous and very expensive idea, especially considering it could not be maintained indefinitely and would eventually just melt away.

Further info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk

Also see the excellent and entertaining book My Tank is Fight, for a good write up on the wrongs of the "Ice Carrier".

[Joisey]

It's pykrete, not pyrite.

Pykrete is ice stabilized with sawdust or wood pulp:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pycrete

Whereas (iron) pyrite is fool's gold:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrite

Either way, the "Ice Carrier" was a ridiculous and very expensive idea, especially considering it could not be maintained indefinitely and would eventually just melt away.

Further info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk

Also see the excellent and entertaining book My Tank is Fight, for a good write up on the wrongs of the "Ice Carrier".

Really? I always thought it could be workable if you built a thin double hull, and had refrigeration coils in the middle. Then fill the space (say one foot thick?) between the hulls with your pykrete mixture, and turn on the coils (like ice rinks use). Viola! Sure, the thin outer hull would be destroyed if hit by shells or torpedoes, but it's the Pykrete that is the armor, not the outer hull. Just patch that up as needed after action.

[Diamondback]

I'd like to see naval bases available, maybe even do it as a big "base" miniature with equipment slots and separate attaching minis like a carrier's plane capacity for things like:
->Dry docks
->Sub pens
->Airstrip
->Headquarters
->Fuel, supply, and/or ammo depots
->Seaplane base
->Ship moorings

Also, scenario packs or box-sets would be really cool.

[Autarch]

So, do you think there will be naval mines? It could be a flat ocean piece with a little buoy with a sign on it that says "mines". lol.

[swarbs]

How about including the German pre-Dreadnaught Sleswig-Holstien, it was used for fire support during the attack on Poland. That's reasonably whacky I think.

[dracos42]

I like the ice carrier too. Keep it in the North Atlantic and I think she'll do fine. Imagine a carrier you actually can operate B-17's and Lancasters from.
Or have boarding actions on. Just no flamethrowers for the USMC detachment. Tanks are a possibility though, as well as universal carriers and halftracks. Is that silly enough?

Other ideas, the gunboat USS Paney, whose sinking could have led to a US-Japan war in the mid 30's. Similar gunboats fought in the Philippines, and the Brits had them too.

The Thai navy, the Chinese cruisers that were taken over by Japan, the Swedish navy, must have Dutch warships.

[Legbiter]

How about including the German pre-Dreadnaught Sleswig-Holstien, it was used for fire support during the attack on Poland. That's reasonably whacky I think.

EXCELLENT idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Schleswig-Holstein

[Hum_35711]

For Germany:

Gneisenau
Schleswig-Holstein
Schlesien
Prinz Eugen
Tirpitz
Graf Zeppelin
Bf 109 fighters
Fi 167 torpedo bombers

[Count_Ciano]

I like the Italian frog-men, myself. Definitely an "out there" unit, but they did do a lot of damage!

Also, some British X craft would be nice, too!

:D

[Joisey]

I'd like to see naval bases available, maybe even do it as a big "base" miniature with equipment slots and separate attaching minis like a carrier's plane capacity for things like:
->Dry docks
->Sub pens
->Airstrip
->Headquarters
->Fuel, supply, and/or ammo depots
->Seaplane base
->Ship moorings

Also, scenario packs or box-sets would be really cool.

But this is a tactical game, and those are strategic assets.

[Diamondback]

But this is a tactical game, and those are strategic assets.

Yeah, but I'm developing a strategic rule-set for Pirates for convention/large-event use, and I see no reason why A&A/A&ANM's mechanics couldn't be extended to make each tactical matchup part of a larger, strategic scenario or campaign, too.

Besides, mainline A&AM's "tactical," and it has fuel/ammo/supply depots and headquarters.

[Joisey]

Yeah, but I'm developing a strategic rule-set for Pirates for convention/large-event use, and I see no reason why A&A/A&ANM's mechanics couldn't be extended to make each tactical matchup part of a larger, strategic scenario or campaign, too.

Besides, mainline A&AM's "tactical," and it has fuel/ammo/supply depots and headquarters.

I think a strategic campaign ruleset is a great idea, but I wouldn't expect WotC to support that. As for the AAM depot units, I think that's a poor example. The HHR committee took such a dim view of them, that we just eliminated them from the game, much as we did for the idea of "Hero" units, only with the depots the minis aren't even useful as anything else. We just couldn't rationalize a logistics advantage in a tactical game that only takes several minutes of real time.

Additionally, the type of basing units you want would be best done by finding 3rd party market wares. Just look at the job WotC did for minefields, pillboxes, and barbed wire: I don't want the hideous stuff they come up with, and I think they should stick to just doing ships.

[kaz]

o hell il make the ice carier just 4 the fun ov it make it out ov sper minis an green stuff spray paint it the dry brush it

[Bigblue2]

I like the Italian frog-men, myself. Definitely an "out there" unit, but they did do a lot of damage!

Also, some British X craft would be nice, too!

:D

I like the frog men idea. Just use a clear circle like the PT boat, but don't put anything on it. It's bound to confound your opponent, who will either ignore, not fearing something that they can't see, or waste a fighter attack on it, just to be safe. With a speed 1 with the slow6 SA, its bound to just float in its starting sector. :D

[Kimblee_Clone]

More aircraft options of course ;)

C. Montgomery Burns' biplane that he used to steal the trillion dollar bill!

I really need to watch less television...

[whitewind]

with the depots the minis aren't even useful as anything else.

Nope, wrong. I think they make great objective markers.

ICE CARRIER!!! Yeah...

[Joisey]

The Ice Carrier, if made to scale, would be something like 3 sectors long. LOL!

And would get an air capacity of 12!

[Flyboy]

Missouri, Clenson class destroyer, and Nimitz class carrier are some I would like to see in the future.

[DCal12]

Yeah the U.S.S Nimitz nuclear-powered Carrier and a freak electrical storm that sends it back to December 6, 1941......

[Jesse_James]

The Ice Carrier, if made to scale, would be something like 3 sectors long. LOL!

And would get an air capacity of 12!

cool :cool:

By the sounds of it, I doubt we will see one of these.

If we do it will more than likly be one of those "special" units wizards offers in a "blister" pack like they did with the AT-At for the starwars game. I say this because I don't think it can fit in the booster. :p

[Count_Ciano]

Well, for battleship designs that range anywhere from interesting to downright wacky, they could probably squeeze another set out of these "what-ifs" (or, in the case of some of these, "AS-if's" is a more appropriate description:p ):

http://www.geocities.com/alt_naval/index.htm

Enjoy! :cool: