Shallow Draft

[Bigblue2]

PT boats with shallow draft seem pretty cool for 6 points. A ship with shallow draft in an island sector would be immune to all attacks from other ships and would only be vulnerable to aircraft. As most islands are near objectives a sortie of 4 PT boats (costing 24 points) could potentially deny an opponent 2 objectives and make them use precious air units to take out the PT boats. If they don't, they stand a reasonable chance of losing ships including capital ships. Does anyone else think that this is a good strategy?

[Thunderjp]

Pending better rules clarifications, a swarm of PT boats (to prevent objective taking) and Subs (for killing enemy units) could make for a serious force, completely abusing the rules.

[maciej12]

the PT boats were designed for swam attacks. They were very difficult to hit with large guns and they were used to attack (usually at night) by moving in quick, launching their torpedos, and then retreating to saftey before they could be hit. At least that was how it worked in an ideal situation, but the concept for the game is definately a good one.

[Bigblue2]

A PT boat can't take an objective nor deny and opponent taking an objective by its mere presence. It can only deter by the threat of sinking a ship that could take an objective. They are very fragile and can be sunk by a zeke with a single hit. In a 100 point game this would seem to be a great tactic. In a 200 or 300 point game this would seem like a very good tactic and would at least soak up considerable enemy aircraft freeing your main ships from attacks form the air. :cool:

[Slaynar]

I agree with BigBlue2, they cant deny an objective (Pt-boats, planes, Subs) but I have used them to keep my opponent honest, and give me time to weaken him up before moving to take the objective with my fleet.

[Walgers]

Where does it say PT's can deny claiming an objective? It says no subs or aircraft. On the PT it says no claiming objectives.

BTW. There is no line of sight into or out of an island sector. However two opposing PT's could dual in one sector.

[Slaynar]

Pt's are not "Ships" and so can not claim nor deny....

Yes I see no problem with 2 Pt's dueling it out... that would be cool, so far in our games people only take them to round out thier fleets. I have been the only one to use them in an offensive move.

If you win the intiative ,and your opponent is "lazy" enough to move a lighter ship with in 3 of an island, they can cause some serious damage... LOL

[Thunderjp]

According to this moderator post, the jury is still out on PT boat denying objective taking. (They definitally cannot take the objectives themselves.)
http://boards.avalonhill.com/showpos...5&postcount=42

[Bigblue2]

I would think that any unit that can't take an objective could not deny and opponent from taking an objective. The rules state that only a ship can take an objective, and subs are a unit type other than ship. PT boats are ships but have no sea control and aircraft are not ships. I say KISS. :D

[DeathsHead420]

I agree PT's were not ships they are boats, they cannot survive in the open ocean long. I have thought of swarming PT's to the objective but since they are not ships in my opinion they don't take objectives.

Now the back of the US PT Boat card says it's a ship. Subs are called subs, Planes are aircraft, So at first glance I would have to say that yes PT boats can claim an objective. Unless it says on the card that it can't. And in this case Us PT boats cannot claim an objective, there fore how will it be able to keep enemy vessels from claiming it. Simple SINK it. Thats the only way

[Joisey]

PT boats with shallow draft seem pretty cool for 6 points. A ship with shallow draft in an island sector would be immune to all attacks from other ships and would only be vulnerable to aircraft. As most islands are near objectives a sortie of 4 PT boats (costing 24 points) could potentially deny an opponent 2 objectives and make them use precious air units to take out the PT boats. If they don't, they stand a reasonable chance of losing ships including capital ships. Does anyone else think that this is a good strategy?

This sounds interesting and I will check it out when I get to it. I'm finished studying the Germans and am now cogitating a "Tactica Nipponica", but I'm a little stymied being without a lot of the ships. I have alot of U.S. ships, so maybe I should do that first. I was going to leave it for awhile, since my initial impression is that it should be the easiest to win with the U.S. fleet. It has the most ships, and they are very high quality. I think it will be a very forgiving fleet to play with.