AXIS AND ALLIES EASTERN FRONT CHALLENGE ON APRIL 21st

[hornet69]

Yes sir we are back again .This time with a day of competion we will be doing Eastern front competion. ITS prebuilt 250 point army that will be in the scenario's .,German and a Russian one.In all scenarios i will be supplying the units used . this will be easier for set up and play. as some people might not have certain units.
The scenarios will be based on famous eastern front battles .They will be posted in the coming days.
BAttle of Moscow Dec.1941
Battle of Prokhorovka -July 12,1943-Scenario posted
Battle OF Dnieper-September 24th,1943-scenario posted
Battle of Narva-
All scenarios will have a 10 term limit.
People wanting to play need to post and send me a pm of there intensions.

So if you want a challenge come on down to FAT CAT BOOKS AT 263 MAIN STREET ,JOHNSONCITY NEW YORK on April 21st.
We do not charge to play .we just require you to have fun

PLAYERS
hornet69
101st_Airborne
Lotus
Denny Crane
118th_MPco_abn
battletech
worldwarIII
Dave
Senior_Simpson
Pure_Evil
hooover

[101st_Airborne]

yes, i will go

[Lotus]

Count me in.

[101st_Airborne]

I DEMAND a kursk scenario- not even open for discussion

[hornet69]

I DEMAND a kursk scenario- not even open for discussion
be carfull what you wish for:D

[118th_MPCo_abn]

Sign me up.
Should be enjoyable.

[hornet69]

hey Lotus can dave/ajax come down in 2 wks to join this

[118th_MPCo_abn]

If I understood your post on the April 7 thread correctly, we (the players) will not be putting together out own builds for the tourney?

[hornet69]

yes that is correct .that way you just move from one scenario to the next . and we can get more games in .the players will just have to due is set up the forces i will have listed in each scenario .play . have fun the n when over go to the next scenario. and i will have all scenarios and maps they will be using set up in advance of gameday .that way this will give us more time to game .setting up is always a killer for us. o one sceanio will be using not the maps but the good real terrain with trees ,buildings and the hole enchiliada

[battletech]

Sign me up for the 21st.

Hornet can you give me a little back ground for the scenarios?

battletech

[118th_MPCo_abn]

Oh ... I see.
Assembling a build for a scenerio PRIOR to game day is half the fun.

Oh well:( .

[world war III]

Count me in too.

[hornet69]

Oh ... I see.
Assembling a build for a scenerio PRIOR to game day is half the fun.

Oh well:( .
trust me you all shall have fun.and if you get board my French fleet is aching to have a go at your germans .as well as my french army .we are long over due for are french german battles

[Lotus]

hey Lotus can dave/ajax come down in 2 wks to join this

Barring a catastrophic bout of unexpectedness...I'd say yeah.

[hornet69]

The tank Battle of Prokhorovka OCCURRED ON July 12th,1943
and was the largest tank battle in human history. It was the pivotal battle of Operation Citadel,the German offensive to encircle Soviet forces in the Kursk Salient.

Forces Involved
GERMAN
II SS Panzer Korps
1st SS Panzer Division-Liebstandarte Adolf Hitler
2nd SS Panzer Division- Das Riech


Russian
5th Guards Tank Army
2nd Guards Tank Corps
18th Tank Corps
29th Tank Corps

THE BATTLE
On the morning of July 12th,II SS Panzerkorps advanced on Prokhorovka at the same time that 5th Guards Tank Army launched a counter-offensive in a attempt to stem the German advance. The SS and Guards units collided west of Prokhorovka in open country punctuated by farms ,rolling hills and gullies.

The soviet attack on the 1st SS Panzer started at 9:15,with tanks rushing into the relatively unprepared forward elements of the 1st SS. By 9:30am ,within 15 minutes of the attack commencing ,the soviet 25th Tank Brigade had lost two-thirds of its tanks. Despite this surprise ,the attack was defeated with heavy losses. by mid day the 5th Guards Tank Would Go to the defensive. Due to counter attacks ,all ground gained by the soviets had to be given up by the evening .

Scenario
The Russians 18th Tank Corps lead units must push thru forward elements of the 1st SS Panzer Division. While German Frces must stem this advance.

MAP
4 -SECTIONS FROM PASADALES KURSK MAPS

Forces
GERMAN-1ST SS Panzer Division
Forward elements
Panzer III Ausf.f
2-BMW R75

Lead panzer platoon
Veteran Tiger
4-Panzer Ausf.g

Air support
2 - JU 87G

RUSSIAN-
18TH Tank Corps
8 -T-34/76

Air support
2- IL 2 -Sturmovik

OBJECTIVES
RUSSIAN- must smash through forward german line and exit the map .
all german forces must be destroyed to leave the map.

GERMAN -must hold the line .none shall pass.

SPECIAL RULES
COMMAND TANKS .
both sides will have command tanks that give +2 to the germans and +1 to the russians on the initative.
the tiger is the coomand tank for the germans .the russian player picks one of his as the command.

TANK ABILITIES
all german tanks are considered SS so they get SS Determination-this unit can move while disrupted

all russian tanks get guard crew-after rolling attack dice for a tank may reroll dice with a one (this is a change to the standard sa)

INITATIVE
the player that has won initative is the only one that may have airplanes on the board that turn.(this simulates of map air battles that were around the battle)

RAMMING
tanks may ram another tank but to due so may not fire that turn.
a ram is successfull if a player rolls a die roll of 5 or 6 if russian ,6 if german. (this simulates the crazed nature of this battle)
a successfull ram -both tanks recieve face up disrupt markers .and both tanks can not fire in the next turn as well.

AIRUNITS
the IL-2 STORMOVIK STATS
speed A
defense 3/3
infrantry attack 7 at range 0-1, 5 at range 2 -4
armor attacks 6 at range 0-1,4 at range 2-4
superior armor 1
TURNS
7 -10

VICTORY
russia must eliminate the german forces and move of map
8 t34's major victory, 5 t34's marginal victory , 3 or less t34's german win russian commander shot by nkvd -family sent to siberia.

germany must hold the line
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[101st_Airborne]

The tank Battle of Prokhorovka OCCURRED ON July 12th,1943
and was the largest tank battle in human history. It was the pivotal battle of Operation Citadel,the German offensive to encircle Soviet forces in the Kursk Salient.

Forces Involved
GERMAN
II SS Panzer Korps
1st SS Panzer Division-Liebstandarte Adolf Hitler
2nd SS Panzer Division- Das Riech


Russian
5th Guards Tank Army
2nd Guards Tank Corps
18th Tank Corps
29th Tank Corps

THE BATTLE
On the morning of July 12th,II SS Panzerkorps advanced on Prokhorovka at the same time that 5th Guards Tank Army launched a counter-offensive in a attempt to stem the German advance. The SS and Guards units collided west of Prokhorovka in open country punctuated by farms ,rolling hills and gullies.

The soviet attack on the 1st SS Panzer started at 9:15,with tanks rushing into the relatively unprepared forward elements of the 1st SS. By 9:30am ,within 15 minutes of the attack commencing ,the soviet 25th Tank Brigade had lost two-thirds of its tanks. Despite this surprise ,the attack was defeated with heavy losses. by mid day the 5th Guards Tank Would Go to the defensive. Due to counter attacks ,all ground gained by the soviets had to be given up by the evening .

Scenario
The Russians 18th Tank Corps lead units must push thru forward elements of the 1st SS Panzer Division. While German Frces must stem this advance.

MAP
4 -SECTIONS FROM PASADALES KURSK MAPS

Forces
GERMAN-1ST SS Panzer Division
Forward elements
Panzer III Ausf.f
2-BMW R75

Lead panzer platoon
Veteran Tiger
4-Panzer Ausf.g

Air support
2 - JU 87G

RUSSIAN-
18TH Tank Corps
8 -T-34/76

Air support
2- IL 2 -Sturmovik

OBJECTIVES
RUSSIAN- must smash through forward german line and exit the map .
all german forces must be destroyed to leave the map.

GERMAN -must hold the line .none shall pass.

SPECIAL RULES
COMMAND TANKS .
both sides will have command tanks that give +2 to the germans and +1 to the russians on the initative.
the tiger is the coomand tank for the germans .the russian player picks one of his as the command.

TANK ABILITIES
all german tanks are considered SS so they get SS Determination-this unit can move while disrupted

all russian tanks get guard crew-after rolling attack dice for a tank may reroll dice with a one (this is a change to the standard sa)

INITATIVE
the player that has won initative is the only one that may have airplanes on the board that turn.(this simulates of map air battles that were around the battle)
RAMMING
tanks may ram another tank but to due so may not fire that turn.
a ram is successfull if a player rolls a die roll of 5 or 6 if russian ,6 if german. (this simulates the crazed nature of this battle)
a successfull ram -both tanks recieve face up disrupt markers

AIRUNITS
the IL-2 STORMOVIK STATS
speed A
defense 3/3
infrantry attack 7 at range 0-1, 5 at range 2 -4
armor attacks 6 at range 0-1,4 at range 2-4
superior armor 1
TURNS
7 -10

VICTORY
russia must eliminate the german forces and move of map
8 t34's major victory, 5 t34's marginal victory , 3 or less t34's german win russian commander shot by nkvd -family sent to siberia.

germany must hold the line
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try again next time

[118th_MPCo_abn]

German Pz IV vs. T-34

Nice scenerio Hornet ... concerning ramming however ....

Aren't the odds of actually damaging the T-34 higher if you attacked it as opposed to hoping to disrupt the T-34 (and Pz IV) by attempting to ram (successful on a 1D roll of 6)?

I don't see a situation where ramming an opposing tank would be a tactical advantage over just shooting it (except maybe a T-34 swarm vs. Vet).
Is there something here that I am not taking into consideration?

[hornet69]

German Pz IV vs. T-34

Nice scenerio Hornet ... concerning ramming however ....

Aren't the odds of actually damaging the T-34 higher if you attacked it as opposed to hoping to disrupt the T-34 (and Pz IV) by attempting to ram (successful on a 1D roll of 6)?

I don't see a situation where ramming an opposing tank would be a tactical advantage over just shooting it (except maybe a T-34 swarm vs. Vet).
Is there something here that I am not taking into consideration?
no you answered your own question. (t34 swarm on tiger) and ramming did happen in this battle i wanted it in to refect this

[Lotus]

Looks good, Hornet. Glad the Sturmoviks are 3/3, otherwise they'd chew up the panzers w/ little or no resistance. Still going to be tricky for the Germans. Of course that just makes it more fun.

[hornet69]

updated ramming rules to simulate actual combat

[118th_MPCo_abn]

Hey guys ... happy Tuesday.
Big tourney in 4 days.

[Lotus]

Looking forward to it. Got an small bit of inspiration for the scenario that's listed. Where are the other 3?

Also, battled Ajax in the sea saturday and found out just how bad a wolfpack can be w/ a spotter plane. Oof! Very close game though.

I need to acquire some German subs. :(

[118th_MPCo_abn]

Looking forward to it. Got an small bit of inspiration for the scenario that's listed. Where are the other 3?

Also, battled Ajax in the sea saturday and found out just how bad a wolfpack can be w/ a spotter plane. Oof! Very close game though.

I need to acquire some German subs. :(

Very nice!
Go Admiral Ajax!

[hornet69]

The Soviets conducted their second and last operationial level airborne assaul tin september 1943 during the soviet advance to the Dniepr River. Having repulsed the major german attack at kursk in july 1943,soviet forces counter-attacked in mid july and august with two of their own offenses.Operation Kutuzov ,launched in mid july ,drove german forces from the orel salient. The second offensive ,Operation Rumyantsev,begun in early august,smashed german 4th panzer army and operationial group kempf ,and severly mauledgerman mobile operationial reserves. By late august the soviets captured kharkov and had begun a broad front pursuit of the german forces withdrawing torward the dniepr river line.

In order to soften up the defenses on the Dnieprs right shore as well as widen the bridgehead already established.. On september 24th the Dnieper airborne operation was launched. the soviets droped the first ,third and 5th guards airborne brigades. the soviet objective was to secure a bridgehead until reinforcements could arrive.

The operation turned out to be a complete failure .because the piolts were unfamiliar with the area,the first wave of paratroopers was dropped on soviet lines or in the dniepr river,while the second wave of 5,000 paratroopers were scattered over several dozen square kilometers.moreover because of a poorly performed reconnaissence that failed to spot german mechanized forces(24th panzercorps-19th panzer and 10th panzergrenadierdivision),most soviet troops lacking anti-tank weapons,were overwhelmed shortly after their landing.the others ,having lost radio link with their headquarters tried to attack german supply depots or joined partisan forces.

despite heavy losses ,it is estimated that the dniepr airborne operation,which attracted the attention of a significant number of german mechanized forces,which allowed river crossings by the soviets in other sectors.nevertheless ,after the failure of vyazma drop earlier in the war and the dniepr paradrop ,soviet high command refused to use massive airorne operations again.

SCENARIO
Soviet guard airborne troops must seize objectives to establish a bridgehead for further advance.while german forces repel the airborne assault

MAPS
ABLE-4,BAKER-2, BAKER-4,ABLE-3

FORCES
GERMAN-19th Panzer Division
Bmw r75
Flakpanzer IV whirblwind
2 -SD KFZ 250 halftrack
Wehrmact oberleutenant
2 - sgrw 34 81mm mortar
wehrmact veteran infrantrymen
disiciplined spotter
3 - panzer IV AUSF.G
6 -Panzer grenadiers
sd kfz 251 halftrack
2 sd kfz 222


RUSSIAN-5th Guards Brigade
first airborne group
soviet airborne captain
commissar
10 soviet airborne troopers
maxim mg
ptrd 41
82mm pm 37 mortar
soviet grenadier

second airborne group
soviet airborne captain
commissar
10 soviet airborne troopers
maxim mg
ptrd 41
82mm pm 37 mortar
soviet grenadier
hero of the soviet union

partisans
2 cossack cavalrymen
4 communist partisans

SETUP
russian player picks the hexes for his first airborne group that will be placed on the map fothe game start of his movement phase and for turn 5 when his second group enters the game.(this reflects the disorganized situation of the soviet airbone drop)
the soviet partisan forces are placed any where on the map after the german player sets up.
german forces are set up after the russians place there airborne units , the first turn movement for the soviets.

OBJECTIVES
RUSSIAN-seize and hold 4 objectives
town hex on baker 4
bridge on able 3
fork in the road on able4
village hall hex on baker2

GERMAN-deny the soviets those objectives

SPECIAL RULES
SOVIET AIRBORNE UNITS

Soviet airborne infrantry
cost 7
speed 1
defense 4/4
infrantry attack range at 0-1, 8 range 3-4 , 6
armor attack range at 0-1 ,2
paratrooper-you should know how they work.:D
close assault 6

Soviet airborne captian
cost 9
speed 1
defense 4/4
infrantry attack range at 0-1, 8 range 3-4 ,6
armor attack range at 0-1,2
commanders abilities
initiative +2
close assault master.-friendly paratrooper units adjacent to this unit recieve a +1 to all attack dice. if stacked in the same hex they recieve a extra attack die instead of the +1


soviet maxim mg-same as vivkers mg


INITATIVE
soviets have the initative on the first turn

TURNS
7 TO 10

VICTORY
soviets must hold four objectives .
4 major victory hero of russia ,3 marginal victory you are reinforced. 2 -0 you are shot and family sent to siberia
germany must hold the 4 objectives
4 you have stabilized the front -you recieve the iron cross ,3 marginial victory-you recieve ammo and supplies.,2-0 you are removed from command .

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[101st_Airborne]

The Soviets conducted their second and last operationial level airborne assaul tin september 1943 during the soviet advance to the Dniepr River. Having repulsed the major german attack at kursk in july 1943,soviet forces counter-attacked in mid july and august with two of their own offenses.Operation Kutuzov ,launched in mid july ,drove german forces from the orel salient. The second offensive ,Operation Rumyantsev,begun in early august,smashed german 4th panzer army and operationial group kempf ,and severly mauledgerman mobile operationial reserves. By late august the soviets captured kharkov and had begun a broad front pursuit of the german forces withdrawing torward the dniepr river line.

In order to soften up the defenses on the Dnieprs right shore as well as widen the bridgehead already established.. On september 24th the Dnieper airborne operation was launched. the soviets droped the first ,third and 5th guards airborne brigades. the soviet objective was to secure a bridgehead until reinforcements could arrive.

The operation turned out to be a complete failure .because the piolts were unfamiliar with the area,the first wave of paratroopers was dropped on soviet lines or in the dniepr river,while the second wave of 5,000 paratroopers were scattered over several dozen square kilometers.moreover because of a poorly performed reconnaissence that failed to spot german mechanized forces(24th panzercorps-19th panzer and 10th panzergrenadierdivision),most soviet troops lacking anti-tank weapons,were overwhelmed shortly after their landing.the others ,having lost radio link with their headquarters tried to attack german supply depots or joined partisan forces.

despite heavy losses ,it is estimated that the dniepr airborne operation,which attracted the attention of a significant number of german mechanized forces,which allowed river crossings by the soviets in other sectors.nevertheless ,after the failure of vyazma drop earlier in the war and the dniepr paradrop ,soviet high command refused to use massive airorne operations again.

SCENARIO
Soviet guard airborne troops must seize objectives to establish a bridgehead for further advance.while german forces repel the airborne assault

MAPS
ABLE-4,BAKER-2, BAKER-4,ABLE-3

FORCES
GERMAN-19th Panzer Division
Bmw r75
Flakpanzer IV whirblwind
2 -SD KFZ 250 halftrack
Wehrmact oberleutenant
2 - sgrw 34 81mm mortar
wehrmact veteran infrantrymen
disiciplined spotter
3 - panzer IV AUSF.G
6 -Panzer grenadiers
sd kfz 251 halftrack
2 sd kfz 222


RUSSIAN-5th Guards Brigade
first airborne group
soviet airborne captain
commissar
10 soviet airborne troopers
maxim mg
ptrd 41
82mm pm 37 mortar
2 -soviet grenadiers

second airborne group
soviet airborne captain
commissar
10 soviet airborne troopers
maxim mg
ptrd 41
82mm pm 37 mortar
2 soviet grenadiers
hero of the soviet union

partisans
2 cossack cavalrymen
4 communist partisans

SETUP
russian player picks the hexes for his first airborne group that will be placed on the map fothe game start of his movement phase and for turn 5 when his second group enters the game.(this reflects the disorganized situation of the soviet airbone drop)
the soviet partisan forces are placed any where on the map after the german player sets up.
german forces are set up after the russians place there airborne units , the first turn movement for the soviets.

OBJECTIVES
RUSSIAN-seize and hold 4 objectives
town hex on baker 4
bridge on able 3
fork in the road on able4
village hall hex on baker2

GERMAN-deny the soviets those objectives

SPECIAL RULES
SOVIET AIRBORNE UNITS
(still finishing the details)

INITATIVE
soviets have the initative on the first turn

TURNS
7 TO 10

VICTORY
soviets must hold four objectives .
4 major victory hero of russia ,3 marginal victory you are reinforced. 2 -0 you are shot and family sent to siberia
germany must hold the 4 objectives
4 you have stabilized the front -you recieve the iron cross ,3 marginial victory-you recieve ammo and supplies.,2-0 you are removed from command .

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hmmm 20 airborne vs. a couple of PG's and a vet? Does this work out evenly hornet?

[hornet69]

hmmm 20 airborne vs. a couple of PG's and a vet? Does this work out evenly hornet?
yes it does read the set up

[horacus]

I like your idea Hornet. I will be a hard batle for the Germans.

[hornet69]

Great games by all today .we only played the 2 i posted. and we did some war at sea as well today.

[world war III]

good game hornet;)

[Lotus]

Yep. Good games. And I took a thrashing from 118th.

Jesse, we'll get that WaS game next time.