D-Day "reinforcing" question...

[holywolfman]

I was just wondering, Mike- in the "Allies" reinforcing phase, the Operations Manual states:

(pg 13)
"Reinforcements enter play in order from left to right and top to bottom. No unit can enter play until all units preceding it have entered play..."

I was just wondering, If you roll (as USA) and receive more reinforcements than you can place- do you just skip over to the other beach/reinforcement zone?

For an example, If you rolled an 8, you are only allowed to place 4 in Utah beach and the remaining 4 at Omaha Beach...does that mean you have to take ALL 8 USA reinforcing units from the same 'line' (Utah Beach) whichever comes FIRST or can you just take 4 from Utah Beach 'line' (from chart) and take remaining 4 from the NEXT Omaha Beach 'line'? (to satisfy the beach zone capacity rating)--->NOTE:-[On chart it specifies which 'Beach' to place for the first 2 rows.]

(I know-I prob confused you, just want to know how reinforcements are taking from the chart!)

Thanks,

-Nick- smile.gif

[ May 08, 2004, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: holywolfman ]

[series]

Here's how I view it: The manuel clearly says "No unit may enter play before the one preceding it". Therefore, I think if you have extras that can not fit, you must not place them.

[holywolfman]

...Also- just curious: As far as 'gameplay' for D-Day, what is the significance of the BLOCKHOUSE pieces on the western/ coastal regions>? Is it just for extra land defenses (what little they offer) They can not attack any invasion/beach zone- Is that correct?!?

-Nick- smile.gif

[series]

from what I know, they only provide land defense. However, with amphibious bombardment, whats the chance they'll still be around anyway? Well, they do add realism, because Normandy was heavily defended.

[holywolfman]

Originally posted by series:
Here's how I view it: The manuel clearly says "No unit may enter play before the one preceding it". Therefore, I think if you have extras that can not fit, you must not place them...I just want to make myself clear (I know it is hard sometimes!):

On USA reinforce chart, The top 2 lines say:
"Omaha Beach only" (and) "Utah Beach only"...

When pulling reinforcements from this chart (from left to right, top to bottom)- You would pull 4 from the "Utah Beach" line and you would pull rest (say 5 more if you rolled 9 on the dice) from the next line "Omaha Beach" line...my inital thought was: You would still have reinforcements on the previous line (if you can only pull 4 for MAX per turn for Utah)-Is that how you pull for reinforcements or do you pull from the chart? (ignoring what it says: "Utah Beach only" or "Omaha Beach only"...)

[Note]: on UK chart: it doesn't matter which Beach/invasion zone you choose for the reinforcing units!

-Nick- smile.gif

[Mike Selinker]

I was just wondering, If you roll (as USA) and receive more reinforcements than you can place- do you just skip over to the other beach/reinforcement zone?Nope. You have to clear those beaches with those units before your other units get ashore. On your first turn, all the US player can get is four infantry to Utah. Those infantry have to clear off the beach and get their buddies ashore, and then the resupply of Omaha can begin in earnest.

...Also- just curious: As far as 'gameplay' for D-Day, what is the significance of the BLOCKHOUSE pieces on the western/ coastal regions>? Is it just for extra land defenses (what little they offer) They can not attack any invasion/beach zone- Is that correct?!?They have no firing arc, so they can only participate in land combat. They were there in real life, so they're there in the game.

Mike

[holywolfman]

http://gimmefreebies.com/nick/Utah_beach_chart2.jpg

So what you are saying:
If I rolled a "7" for 1st USA reinforce phase (I have all units on chart per say)...I CAN NOT take the (2) Blue Inf. and (1)Artillery (from pic above) as reinforcements! I can only reinforce (4) men at Utah (max beach zone allowed) and WAIT til next reinforce phase and do remaining 2 arts (for Utah) THEN dip into Omaha Beach line...

Is that CORRECT? :D

(Just want to make sure!)

Thanks, Mike

-Nick- ;)

[Mike Selinker]

Yes. The US has a hard road at the beginning of the game.

Mike

[holywolfman]

Thanks much, Mike! :D

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[Dukelion]

LOL! When we played our first game we totally missed that. Oh well.....still didn't help them any. I was able to hold them from St. Lo by round 7 with no way for them to win.

[Porter117]

Why cant you reinforce both beachheads but only until theyre full or youre out off reinforcements?

[holywolfman]

I guess it is just part of the game! You have to reinforce UTAH first then dip into Omaha Beach line then you can reinforce anywhere!

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[Porter117]

Ok, whatever, I'll just have to deal with it. And is this the only situation like this?

[Wharf Rat]

I think the delayed reinforcement of Omaha is one of the most interesting aspects of the game. I'm not a Normandy scholar, but as far as gameplay is concerned, it makes for a more interesting game that Utah is reinforced first (and with only infantry to boot). Without delayed support to Omaha, allies would have a HUGE advantage in the push to St. Lo.

[Porter117]

Ok, another question for clarification, do you roll 2 dice for each ally or 1 each? And the same with axis 2 for each reinforcement zone.

[Wharf Rat]

Roll 2 dice for the brits, 2 dice for the yanks, and two dice for each set of axis reinforcement zones (total of 4 for the axis).

[Porter117]

Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks.

[holywolfman]

EACH ALLIED player rolls (2) dice each....and Germany player rolls (2) dice (for each side of the chart)-2 sides to reinforcement chart!

http://gimmefreebies.com/nick/German_chart1.jpg

[Hope that helps!]

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