Stupid question

[Admiral Piett]

I just joined the boards, so I apologize if this has been asked before. There has been some arguments on the wording of page 7 about subs and objective controlling. One person says it means they have absolutely no effect and can't block claiming objectives, where as the other says it can block. Player a argues that the paranthetical phrase about it stopping claiming by destroying means the subs stop it by ONLY destroying. Player b says that it is just a strategic mentioning and that the control effect is just a matter of claiming. Which is correct?

[Colornone]

I just joined the boards, so I apologize if this has been asked before. There has been some arguments on the wording of page 7 about subs and objective controlling. One person says it means they have absolutely no effect and can't block claiming objectives, where as the other says it can block. Player a argues that the paranthetical phrase about it stopping claiming by destroying means the subs stop it by ONLY destroying. Player b says that it is just a strategic mentioning and that the control effect is just a matter of claiming. Which is correct?

Neither claim nor block.

[Joisey]

Subs cannot keep a surface vessel from claiming an objective by merely being adjacent to the objective itself. The sub only "contests" in the sense that it may sink the surface vessel trying to claim the objective. Ditto this rule for PT boats.

[Admiral Piett]

Thanks, guys.

[Comm. Jeff Richter]

Subs cannot keep a surface vessel from claiming an objective by merely being adjacent to the objective itself. The sub only "contests" in the sense that it may sink the surface vessel trying to claim the objective. Ditto this rule for PT boats.

I'm new here too, but doesn't page 3 of the Rules Clarifaction proves this wrong.

No Sea Control: Units with this special ability cannot claim objectives, but they do prevent an opponent from claiming an objective by being in or adjacent to that objective.

[ieatcrayons]

Subs do not have that SA. Type: Ships contest objectives from a sector away unless they have the No Sea Control SA. However, submarines are Type: Submarine, and as such cannot contest objectives from adjacent sectors.

[Greyh Seer]

No Sea Control: Units with this special ability cannot claim objectives, but they do prevent an opponent from claiming an objective by being in or adjacent to that objective.

I actually ran into an issue with this. A PT boat sat on an Island Tile adjacent to an objective. The PT Boats SA keeps it from being attacked but it also contests the objective. Essentially keeping either side from being able to take that objective.

Has anyone else ran into this?

[gairsy]

A unit might 'contest' an objective but only surface vessels bigger than a MTB/PT boat can CLAIM them.

[Joisey]

I'm new here too, but doesn't page 3 of the Rules Clarifaction proves this wrong.

Forgot about that SA. I just started playing with the torp boats. They can be alot of fun! :D

[shermanM4A1]

Which units count as torpedo boats?