Plastic tokens for War at Sea [Archive]

Asqlep

07-31-2007, 12:55 PM

Thin paper tokens always sorta bummed me out, so when Litko Aerosystems announced they were offering a custom plastic token service, I became pretty excited. When I read a news link on another miniature gaming website that they had put together a plastic token set for another WWII tabletop wargame, that got me motivated.

I shot an email to their customer service department about a possible set for War at Sea, and the first response went beyond my expectation – they put a package together there and then!

Since War at Sea is an untested market for them, there is a minimum number of preorders required – 25, to be exact – but once that minimum is met the set will enter the regular production offering and will be available for order anytime.

The set offered is as follows:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/AxisandAlliestokenset.jpg

There are 1 or 2 extra tokens here and there beyond what is included in the War at Sea starter kit. I asked about this, and it was explained to me that this was due to the quantity of each plastic token cut during the process. It would cost the same either way, so the consumer gets the extras. The price of the set is also a substantial savings compared to regular price of their custom tokens.

This is a link to a page with a colour photo of the custom tokens:
http://www.litkoaero.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LAI&Product_Code=CTOK001

This is a link that sets up a shopping cart to order the token set:
AXIS and ALLIES NAVAL BATTLE, set of 40 tokens, $20.00
www.litkoaero.com/custom/AXIS-ALLIES-NAVAL/20.00/.10

I was asked by the Litko representative that I make sure everyone understood that all orders will be held until they have 25 total orders, and all items included with that order will be held as well. Anyone is welcome to check with them via email or phone call regarding the current status of the order count.

I am NOT an employee of Litko Aerosystems, nor affiliated with them in any way beyond that of being an interested customer who emailed them about a possible set of plastic War at Sea tokens.

polish_horsy

07-31-2007, 01:12 PM

Q: would the text show through to the other side?

TheJudge

07-31-2007, 01:23 PM

Am I reading that right? 40 tokens for $20?

Wouldn't it be a lot better to buy another starter box for less than $20, get the tokens, more maps, and......MINI's!!

Asqlep

07-31-2007, 01:27 PM

I only have the linked photo to go by, but the text is printed on one side of the token. So, while the text would be probably be visible, it would also be reversed and on the other side of the token.

It would be, IMO, difficult to mistake a right-side-up from an upside-down token.

It's also worth a reminder here that only 2 of the 6 token types are ever placed face down anyway.

I have done my best to provide you with all the information I have in my text and with the relevent links. I say again, I am NOT an employee, or any other type of representative, of Litko Aerosystems, so if you have any questions I recommend contacting them and posting their reply here for others to read. I will say that when I emailed them, the transparent and fluorescent tokens were my proposal, for the simple reason that they look much cooler than the solid colour tokens :)

Asqlep

07-31-2007, 01:31 PM

Perhaps, but no matter how many minis you own, your tokens would still be thin, paper, and (at least for me) difficult to pick up.

Am I reading that right? 40 tokens for $20?

Wouldn't it be a lot better to buy another starter box for less than $20, get the tokens, more maps, and......MINI's!!

TheJudge

07-31-2007, 01:38 PM

Ok, since I am a relatively smart fellow, I'll go out on a limb and say that these are PLASTIC tokens? It doesn't say that anywhere in the text above but I have to assume that they are based on the colors stated and terms like cutting.

I suppose that is not so much if you really don't like the cardboard tokens.

Asqlep

07-31-2007, 01:49 PM

The thread title specifically reads "Plastic tokens", and the photo link to the samples display an obviously plastic product. I am sorry if these these indicators were not sufficiently clear about the nature of the product, but again, I am just a gamer, not an advertising executive.

edit: I had also indicated these were plastic tokens in my closing remark. Regardless, I have added the word "plastic" several additional time for clarity.

Ok, since I am a relatively smart fellow, I'll go out on a limb and say that these are PLASTIC tokens? It doesn't say that anywhere in the text above but I have to assume that they are based on the colors stated and terms like cutting.

I suppose that is not so much if you really don't like the cardboard tokens.

Cinnibar

07-31-2007, 01:58 PM

Only problem is that we're missing a strafing token in this set.

I wouldn't mind some of the fog/smoke tokens either.

Wehrmact_Tiger

07-31-2007, 02:37 PM

Only problem is that we're missing a strafing token in this set.

I wouldn't mind some of the fog/smoke tokens either.

nothing beats some stretched out cotton balls for fog!

the tokens would be a worthy pick up, but I'm not wild about their transparency

weedsrock2

07-31-2007, 03:02 PM

I would probably be 'in' for two sets. I agree a 'Strafing' token would be a nice add. One question, are there not any licensing or copyright issues with this?

Engineer

07-31-2007, 03:03 PM

I make tokens for SWM. 33 tokens for $5. Each piece of cardboard is mounted on a glass bead with a foam back (colored). The bead makes it easier to read the token (and easier to pick up). If you don't want to read the token, just look at the color.

I'll make some up for WaS and post a picture.

Asqlep

07-31-2007, 05:14 PM

Well, there's no logo involved, and it's not an "official" product, just a collection of plastic shapes with fairly mundane english words printed on them. A fully-licensed product with logo-embossed backs would be really cool, but I won't hold my breath there.

I made my own tokens for A&A land battles, but for WAS I wanted the precision-cut gemetric shapes. They add something to the game, imo.

Smoke and strafing would have been cool, but I think Litko hit the price point just right here.

I would probably be 'in' for two sets. I agree a 'Strafing' token would be a nice add. One question, are there not any licensing or copyright issues with this?

sherigon

07-31-2007, 05:54 PM

Autarch

07-31-2007, 06:32 PM

I like the concept, though not the cost. In some of the large scale battles I play in three sets of tokens are not enough...

Why aren't the damage markers in red? They seem to have that color as an option.

DCal12

07-31-2007, 07:25 PM

I like them. If i read it right you can always order straffing ones for like $6.99

cwfgamecast

07-31-2007, 09:02 PM

They do look like nice quality and the $$ isn't bad. I've been hoping that GF9 would make something for War @ Sea though. I know it is dubious since they make markers/tokens for WoTC's competitor (Heroclix stuff) but one can dream.

weedsrock2

07-31-2007, 09:19 PM

I know it is dubious since they make markers/tokens for WoTC's competitor (Heroclix stuff) but one can dream.

Not necessarily a problem. GF9 makes a DreamBlade mat under license from WoTC. I stopped by the GF9 booth at Origins and told them I would like them to make tokens and a nice quality mat for WaS. They said they had gotten quite a few requests. I would imagine the issue is negotiating an acceptable deal with WotC.

Until then I would buy at least two sets if you decide to organize a group purchase. I might be able to get a couple more set commitments from my playgroup.

Jesse_James

07-31-2007, 09:42 PM

I just based my own. Cheap, simple effective. Up next is to base some other tokens that need it.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/142/dsci0463lg6.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4783/dsci0462xj2.jpg

cwfgamecast

07-31-2007, 09:47 PM

Not necessarily a problem. GF9 makes a DreamBlade mat under license from WoTC. I stopped by the GF9 booth at Origins and told them I would like them to make tokens and a nice quality mat for WaS. They said they had gotten quite a few requests. I would imagine the issue is negotiating an acceptable deal with WotC.

Until then I would buy at least two sets if you decide to organize a group purchase. I might be able to get a couple more set commitments from my playgroup.

People play Dreamblade? Wow, color me surprised. If GF9 did make War @ Sea tokens, and etc, it'd be quite impressive. They make a lot of great product. Laser etching and everything.

I'm gonna mention these plastic tokens to everyone at my local tourney tomorrow night. Maybe there'll be some interested parties there.

sherigon

08-01-2007, 03:35 AM

Jesse, those look great exactly what did you base your tokens on?

gcrutch

08-01-2007, 07:20 AM

Those aerosystems tokens look good. I also liked their fluorescent green "BLIP" markers - hmm - potential to use in house rules for WaS as dummy counters or long range reminders...

Jesse_James

08-01-2007, 12:37 PM

Jesse, those look great exactly what did you base your tokens on?

Took some balsa wood (12" by 12") from a craftstore. (about 3 bucks or so)

traced the counters on the sheet. Cut them out with a jig saw. glued them. then I sanded off the excess surrounding of the token with a small tip drum sander.

after that

I "edged" them with a dark blue sharpie.

6 sets out counters took about 5-6 hours.

Well worth the time. Work seems less when you have music. ;)

Capt. Hellcat

08-01-2007, 09:18 PM

To Asqlep:
I'm wondering why you went w. the transparent colors rather than the solids?

For some, like the Damage & Destroyed, it looks like the solid red & black would more closely match the original counters.

Anyways, I may be in for a set. I had checked these guys out but decided to just mount the current ones on a thicker stock instead of getting customs made.

Jesse_James

08-01-2007, 09:26 PM

Asqlep

08-02-2007, 12:24 PM

Believe it or not I spent a lot of money and had my own set of tokens made by litko. I would have loved to have the price point for this set of tokens. I can say that the tokens are of good quality. You won't be disappointed at this price. The gamer geek in me just couldn't resist these cool tokens that were easy to pick up and looked very well done.

I totally felt the same way, Sherigon. I normally make my own tokens, printing them onto adhesive paper at home and applying to pre-cut hardwood shapes. War at Sea, though, used so many different shapes and I wanted to retain that look and feel. Pre-cut wood shapes were not available in the required variety, and balsa is too lightweight and lacks durability for my taste. When Litko announce their custom service, I was totally jazzed, but the variety of tokens made it a little too cost-prohibitive for me. Not that I feel it is overpriced, I think it’s totally reasonable, but the number of extra tokens pushed it over for me. I had considered approach Litko about a possible set, but hadn’t gotten around to it.

When I saw a news item on TMP that someone had done the same thing I was thinking about doing for a different game, that was all the motivation I needed. As you can read in the original post, Litko was responsive and helpful.

Those aerosystems tokens look good. I also liked their fluorescent green "BLIP" markers - hmm - potential to use in house rules for WaS as dummy counters or long range reminders...

I am purchasing blip counters in two different colours to use with hidden/spotting rules. Players move blips around the tabletop until visual confirmation is made, either by fleet proximity or aerial recon. I think this will be a great addition to AKI’s tabletop conversion (http://toomuchlead.blogspot.com/ - pretty much the BEST set of house rules to get no input from this board, IMO). Anyway, yes, those blip counters, along with many of Litko’s other tokens, are pretty awesome.

To Asqlep:
I'm wondering why you went w. the transparent colors rather than the solids?

For some, like the Damage & Destroyed, it looks like the solid red & black would more closely match the original counters.

Anyways, I may be in for a set. I had checked these guys out but decided to just mount the current ones on a thicker stock instead of getting customs made.

From what I had seen in person, as well as the photos on the web, the solid colour tokens looked a little washed out while the transparent looked dynamic, especially how they caught the light. It comes down to aesthetics. With some games, tokens should be subtle and non-invasive, mostly a concern with scale-model tabletop wargaming (for which I still wouldn’t go with Litko – the colours are just not right). War at Sea, though, is not (IMO) that type of game. The ship scale is expanded, and the board is not a seascape. I looked at the board with the models and imagine both token types next to them. The solid material couldn’t hold a candle to the transparent and fluorescent stock.

GDA-Kel

08-02-2007, 01:56 PM

FYI...the links you provide on the first post no longer seem to work.

-Kel

Asqlep

08-02-2007, 04:16 PM

I assume by "you", you meant me :)

If Litko was having a problem earlier, they seem to have resolved it.

Engineer

08-02-2007, 05:45 PM

You got me interested in what this looks like.
I finished two sets. They look nice. I need to take some pics.

weedsrock2

08-02-2007, 05:55 PM

I just clicked on the second link and it looks like we can actually order a set for $20.00. Is that true? When I clicked on the link when you first posted I thought it was a 'proposed' product.

Asqlep

08-02-2007, 06:36 PM

hehe there's that "you" again - Please remember this is a public forum, not my personal thread. :)

As soon as Litko has 25 preorders, they will put the set into production. When that happens, they will produce and ship the ordered sets. After this, the set will be available for order again at any time.

I have not checked with them regarding the status of the number of orders, but I can confirm that there has been at least one preorder (mine).

Regarding language semantics, I was told that it is safe (not against the Code of Conduct) to talk about tokens and where to find them. Blatent advertising is not allowed. I feel I am walking a bit of a thin line here with this thread: I want to answer any questions people have, but I am also just another "Joe Gamer". Feel free to PM me with any questions, but for this thread, please stick with tokens, otherwise I feel like I am spamming the board.

That said, I am digging on these for SMOKE tokens:
http://www.litkoaero.com/page/LAI/PROD/TS/TS006/session_id/32611ec905d28c233af66bffd17c7afa

I just clicked on the second link and it looks like we can actually order a set for $20.00. Is that true? When I clicked on the link when you first posted I thought it was a 'proposed' product.

weedsrock2

08-04-2007, 01:43 PM

Our group played WaS this morning and we just placed an order for 5 sets from Litko. I hope they are getting close to 25 sets. If you haven't ordered a set but are thinking about it please do!

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Litko or any other gaming company. My exclusive interest is in Litko getting enough orders so "I get mine." :D

Autarch

08-07-2007, 08:51 AM

I am looking for some transparent aircraft stands to base my 1/700 planes on. I noticed Litko had some, but they are a bit tall. Anyone have any ideas?

TheJudge

08-07-2007, 09:37 AM

I went ahead and did an order for those so add me to the list I suppose.

Not sure if my pals would want them but I'll find out.

rhnelson

08-07-2007, 10:22 AM

I am looking for some transparent aircraft stands to base my 1/700 planes on. I noticed Litko had some, but they are a bit tall. Anyone have any ideas?

Looks as if a pair of diagonal cutters could make it any height you want.

Rick

Thoes426

08-07-2007, 11:41 AM

just placed my order today, can't wait to get them in!
thoes426

weedsrock2

08-07-2007, 01:57 PM

I went ahead and did an order for those so add me to the list I suppose.

Not sure if my pals would want them but I'll find out.

One of my play group said he did not want a set. When I emailed them I had ordered the sets and purchased one extra 'just in case' he couldn't stand it and took the extra set.

Did I earn my "Pusher" Scout badge? :D

jack pearl

08-07-2007, 02:54 PM

I'll be ordering two sets next week. My brother and I are just getting into the game and this will be a nice addition.

Muenchausen

08-08-2007, 08:30 AM

I ordered two sets, Any idea how many has been ordered so far?

weedsrock2

08-08-2007, 02:40 PM

Just based on posts it looks like the low teens. About half-way there.

RoyalSovereign

08-08-2007, 07:33 PM

Just Ordered two Sets of plastics. I hope we are closing in on 25 soon

Asqlep

08-09-2007, 10:17 AM

Anyone who is curious about the order quantity is welcome to contact Litko about the order quantity either by phone or email. I had shot them an email earlier, and so their service department helpfully sent me an order qty update this week - we're looking at 13 right now.

This actually sounds about right; I was thinking around 18, but I was also including a local gaming group by which I was only getting the info to by proxy. We saw one of them post in this thread http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=22187. I PM'd Thalan, and they game Thu-Fri, so I am hoping early next week to be pretty close to 20.

I also put in a separate order to Litko for some of their radar blip counters and smoke columns, and will post some pics when they arrive.

weedsrock2

08-09-2007, 02:53 PM

cwfgamecast

08-09-2007, 05:47 PM

Much obliged. I'm mulling it over, wish I had the $$, and mentioned it to my group. They didn't seem interested though. They prefer the idea of making their own. I'd love to hear how these tokens come out from someone who ends up getting them.

Asqlep

08-10-2007, 03:15 PM

Thanks for the update!

You bet mate! I was going to contact Litko in any case, so I thought the unsolicited update from them was helpful. Also, I got an email this morning from them that my second order has shipped, so I am expecting that when the orders are collected and the products produced, everyone who ordered should get an email from Litko letting them know.

Much obliged. I'm mulling it over, wish I had the $$, and mentioned it to my group. They didn't seem interested though. They prefer the idea of making their own. I'd love to hear how these tokens come out from someone who ends up getting them.

Sherigon in post #13 of this thread ordered his own token set through Litko's normal custom channel. He seemed pleased with them. I also have seen other Litko token products and the qualtity looks spot on from the sample pic on their site - the cuts are sharp and accurate

Vornargith

08-12-2007, 10:42 AM

The plastic tokens are sweet! They are undoubtedly longer lasting ... well worth investing some extra $. I thought about going to the hobby store and picking up some styreen (that stuff Wizkidsgames uses for Pirates), but I might just order some of these.

weedsrock2

08-12-2007, 05:56 PM

NameUsedBefore

08-12-2007, 07:45 PM

I might order 2 or 3 sets if I can figure it out. It was ******* me off so I left. :mad:

Edit: ok so I can't say *******, what else can't I say.

weedsrock2

08-12-2007, 08:40 PM

I might order 2 or 3 sets if I can figure it out. It was ******* me off so I left. :mad:

Edit: ok so I can't say *******, what else can't I say.

You will have to ask their server. :D

To order the tokens click on the second link in the first post of this thread. It will automatically take you to a page with a filled out order. Put in the quantity you want. Then there is a very small "Checkout" in the upper left of screen to click on. It took me awhile to find it too.

towcritter1966

08-13-2007, 09:48 AM

If you do not have an account you have to set one up before you can do the checkout. I just completed my order so add +1 to the total orders. Almost there guys:D

Asqlep

08-13-2007, 12:44 PM

Litko has also been nothing but helpful in regards to any questions I had. Contact information is on their homepage (email and toll-free). From the time stamps that I had replies and orders handled, though, it appears they are on the East coast, so if you're a Wester like me, keep that in mind.

The_Lucky_Y

08-13-2007, 12:54 PM

what about shipping to germany?

Asqlep

08-13-2007, 12:59 PM

Well, none of us posting here are Litko employees, Lucky, just gamers. You'd need to contact them about any shipping questions.

Jesse_James

08-13-2007, 04:10 PM

I am sure they do. They said the ship to other nations.

Why not a European power house like Germany?

http://www.litkoaero.com/shipping.php

^ Shipping info.

weedsrock2

08-15-2007, 03:02 PM

I have to bump this thread out of self-interest. Anyone placed any orders this week? Are we near the 25 order threshold?

Are we there yet dad?:D

Asqlep

08-15-2007, 03:11 PM

I received my blip counters and smoke columns on Monday - fast shipping from Indiana to California :D - I wanted to let you all know, but I also wanted to post pictures and haven't had the time (summer session classes killing me)! Plus, I didn't want to bump the thread multiple time (thanks for taking the hit, Weeds :))

I'll get some pics up later this week - very happy with the quality, though a little bummed as Litko just started offering numbered blip counters which would be much more useful than the un-numbered, so I'll be ordering them as well - at least they're the same scale as the previous ones! (haha - just a joke, really!)

Jesse_James

08-15-2007, 03:20 PM

hey asqlep!

did you order the smoke screens?

http://www.litkoaero.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/TS029-LG-250x200.jpg

If so how are they? I was thinking of ordering them if my new batch of smokscreens did not come out the way I wanted them to. The ones in the above picture are not great, but not too bad eithr. I think cotton looks better if you can do it right. Only problem is that cotton counters damage to easy.

I was thinking of ordering the blip counters as well, they would be great for ASW threat. :D

RoyalSovereign

08-15-2007, 05:13 PM

I have to bump this thread out of self-interest. Anyone placed any orders this week? Are we near the 25 order threshold?

Are we there yet dad?:D

I ordered two sets on the 8th. I am willing to order 5 more. can anyone tell me how close we are to 25 ?

weedsrock2

08-15-2007, 07:48 PM

I ordered two sets on the 8th. I am willing to order 5 more. can anyone tell me how close we are to 25 ?

Not since the 13 sets post. Maybe you could ask them when you place the additional order? ;)

RoyalSovereign

08-15-2007, 07:58 PM

Not since the 13 sets post. Maybe you could ask them when you place the additional order? ;)

Sent e-mail to company. am waiting for reply. will update when reply received.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

weedsrock2

08-15-2007, 08:02 PM

Sent e-mail to company. am waiting for reply. will update when reply received.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Thank you!

RoyalSovereign

08-16-2007, 08:38 AM

Thank you!

Partial Update:

called vendor. As of yesterday 17 orders on record. Storms in their area have knocked out their access to the internet, so they can not tell if additional orders have come in. They will call me when they are able to re-establish internet access and check for additional orders.

I have told them that I would commit to purchasing 5 more orders. But if no additional orders came in that would still leave us 3 orders short.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Muenchausen

08-16-2007, 08:52 AM

I'll buy one more after your update if we're still short.

RoyalSovereign

08-16-2007, 09:52 AM

I'll buy one more after your update if we're still short.

Thanks Muenchausen,

On another note Litko sells elevated grids. I purchased 2 of their elevated air support grids.

My intention is to see if they are large enough to place the attacking aircraft over the target ship. Then you could turn the aircraft sideways above the target ship to indicate strafing or possibly have attacking aircraft engage defending aircraft on the same grid...

Of course I could just be out of my mind;)

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Asqlep

08-16-2007, 10:45 AM

Heya J_J,

You're a genius!

Those are the smoke columns I ordered. I was thinking about using them to mark damage on ships as extra dressing, like setting a smoke column by a ship when crippled. For a sample pic I planned on posting tonight or tomorrow, I was thinking a couple wafting off the deck of the Enterprise would look cool.

I sorta dismissed the idea of using them for smoke screens since the column just didn't look right. Lining up 3 or 4 for a smoke screen, though, that would work great! Thanks for jogging my imagination!

The blip counters - those I imagined using for hidden sub rules and/or hidden movement. The numbered ones really make this possible. The fleet could be divided up among the numbered tokens, and those would be moved until recon by aircraft or by encorporating a plain old sighting rule. Both these ideas work great with AKI's tabletop conversion (http://toomuchlead.blogspot.com/), probably less so on the official game surface, that seems too small for hidden movement.

I realize, of course, that any numbered tokens would work, but these just look cool! :D

hey asqlep!
did you order the smoke screens?

If so how are they? I was thinking of ordering them if my new batch of smokscreens did not come out the way I wanted them to. The ones in the above picture are not great, but not too bad eithr. I think cotton looks better if you can do it right. Only problem is that cotton counters damage to easy.

I was thinking of ordering the blip counters as well, they would be great for ASW threat. :D

Asqlep

08-16-2007, 10:50 AM

Another observation: The thread had around 1,300 views at 13 orders, and now over 1,700 at 17 orders. Nice keeping that 1/100 order-to-view ratio. :D

towcritter1966

08-16-2007, 02:11 PM

I might order 2 or 3 sets if I can figure it out. It was ******* me off so I left. :mad:

Edit: ok so I can't say *******, what else can't I say.

You cannot say *****, ****, ****** *** ****** (or any variation thereof), ******, *******, or especially ****** *** *** **** ****** ** ******* ******* (that one will get you banned from the board. :rolleyes:

Asqlep

08-17-2007, 12:35 AM

Heya folks!

I promised some pictures, so here they are!

The blip tokens are 20mm across (flat to flat), which is about the size of the square and circular custom tokens. The hex and oval seem a bit smaller in the picture on Litko's site. I'm not sure if, when I order number blips, if I will order amber or blue along with the green; the amber will contrast better but will also match the damage markers. I'll probably wait a bit and see if they add colours. Like I said before, I think these will really shine used with AKI's tabletop conversion rules along with hidden fleet movement.

The smoke columns work pretty well as screens. I'd really like a smoke screen marker like this http://www.thegamestore.be/store/popup_image.php?pID=3487&osCsid=6d9ca8dcf7903918c5123e10b0575793, downsized to about 60%, because one piece would be simpler than three. Don't work quite as well as damage markers (not horrible, but not supercool either). As you can see, the transparent grey is pretty dark

Screening the group
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02806.jpg

Bad day
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02807.jpg

Hidden subs
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02809.jpg

Blue tokens! (ran out of ideas)
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02810.jpg

Richter von Manthofen

08-17-2007, 07:12 AM

I'd be interested, but I don't know the order procedure...

Asqlep

08-17-2007, 09:17 AM

Heya Richt,

Go to the first post of this thread -> the second link sets up a shopping cart to preorder the set. All you need to do, really, is hit that link and select checkout :)

I'd be interested, but I don't know the order procedure...

RoyalSovereign

08-17-2007, 09:49 AM

I just finished speaking with Lisa of Litko. As of Today Friday August 17, 2007
there are 18 orders placed. I have committed to 5 more. We need two more orders placed by Tuesday August 21, 2007 to make 25. Lisa will call me on tuesday afternoon Indianna time. Which will be morning here in California.

If we are still short at that time I will increase my order to make 25.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

RoyalSovereign

08-17-2007, 10:12 AM

Heya folks!

I promised some pictures, so here they are!

The blip tokens are 20mm across (flat to flat), which is about the size of the square and circular custom tokens. The hex and oval seem a bit smaller in the picture on Litko's site. I'm not sure if, when I order number blips, if I will order amber or blue along with the green; the amber will contrast better but will also match the damage markers. I'll probably wait a bit and see if they add colours. Like I said before, I think these will really shine used with AKI's tabletop conversion rules along with hidden fleet movement.

The smoke columns work pretty well as screens. I'd really like a smoke screen marker like this, downsized to about 60%, because one piece would be simpler than three. Don't work quite as well as damage markers (not horrible, but not supercool either). As you can see, the transparent grey is pretty dark

Screening the group
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02806.jpg

Bad day
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02807.jpg

Hidden subs
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02809.jpg

Blue tokens! (ran out of ideas)
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/Asqlep/DSC02810.jpg

Hi Asqlep,

The blue tokens could indicate an unsuccessful search ?
Just an idea.

Asqlep

08-17-2007, 05:35 PM

Maybe, Royal - initially the different colours were to differentiate players. Having unsuccessful searches could lead to improved odds for the next round. I'll write something out eventually.

Thanks also for helping with this little project! I appreciate the updates and commitment, as I'm sure everyone else who's preordered does :)!

Hi Asqlep,

The blue tokens could indicate an unsuccessful search ?
Just an idea.

RoyalSovereign

08-17-2007, 08:48 PM

Thank You Asqlep for doing the initial leg work with Litko. Now maybe I will actually be able to pick them up without difficulty, cursing...:p

Maybe, Royal - initially the different colours were to differentiate players. Having unsuccessful searches could lead to improved odds for the next round. I'll write something out eventually.

Thanks also for helping with this little project! I appreciate the updates and commitment, as I'm sure everyone else who's preordered does :)!

Diamondback

08-17-2007, 09:22 PM

Maybe, Royal - initially the different colours were to differentiate players. Having unsuccessful searches could lead to improved odds for the next round. I'll write something out eventually.
Suggestion, it should lead to worse odds, as the sub has a bigger radius to have moved into from last known position.

The_Lucky_Y

08-17-2007, 11:07 PM

I would order some sets too but this month I m very short on money so I must wait until september income hits my account unfortunally happens that after the 20th usually.

Asqlep

08-19-2007, 02:18 PM

Totally my pleasure - I had been eyeballing those tokens for a good bit of time before getting the bug to propose the set. Litko dropping about 30% off the regular price of their custom tokens was a nice incentive of them to offer, as well - normally, 40 custom tokens would run $28 :)

And yes, my tokens are looking grungy - after about three failed attempts to pick them up, I just lick my finger so it sticks - ewwwww:eek:

Thank You Asqlep for doing the initial leg work with Litko. Now maybe I will actually be able to pick them up without difficulty, cursing...:p

Muenchausen

08-19-2007, 04:44 PM

I ordered a third set since. Add one more to the totel count. Any idea what the count is?

Muenchausen

08-19-2007, 04:52 PM

Asqlep, the smoke markers on the first picture. Are those the comparison of small, medium and large? If you have any of the red or yellow flame markers could you post a picture of them with a ship? I may be buying more stuff.

RoyalSovereign

08-20-2007, 08:53 AM

Hi Muenchausen,

Thanks for ordering a third set. On Tuesday August 21, 2007 I will receive the final update from Litko. I have put aside $200.00 to make sure we get to 25.

As of Friday morning,(PST), we had 18 orders.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

I ordered a third set since. Add one more to the totel count. Any idea what the count is?

rhnelson

08-20-2007, 04:14 PM

As of Friday morning,(PST), we had 18 orders.

I just ordered a set.

Rick

Asqlep

08-20-2007, 05:03 PM

Those certainly are the small, medium, and large smoke columns. For the second size comparison on the USS Enterprise model, I used the small and medium markers.

Also, my amateur photo studio was my kitchen table with a very bright overhead light - much brighter than normal gaming conditions (or any other, really, imo :D). This lightened up the markers by a pretty good margin. There was some concern earlier about the choice of transparent grey over solid black for the Destroyed tokens, but really, the grey is actually quite dark.

Asqlep, the smoke markers on the first picture. Are those the comparison of small, medium and large? If you have any of the red or yellow flame markers could you post a picture of them with a ship? I may be buying more stuff.

Muenchausen

08-20-2007, 05:03 PM

So we should be at 20 now.

Engineer

08-21-2007, 07:34 AM

mrinnella

08-21-2007, 08:30 AM

I just ordered a set. We should be pretty darn close to 25 by now.

RoyalSovereign

08-21-2007, 09:53 AM

Good news all,

At 0600 PST Dee of Litko Aerosystems informed me that they had 23 confirmed orders. I placed orders to complete the 25 needed for production to begin.

at 0925 PST I called to make sure I heard correctly that all 25 orders had been payed for. Dee not only confirmed that, but said they were already beginning production of the tokens.

Anticipated completion Estimate: the first 25 orders are estimated to be completed by this Friday August 24, 2007. Again this is an estimate. If the estimate is accurate, all continental US orders would ship and begin arriving
3-4 Business days after completion.

There was one order from Australia. The order's shipping showed regular international shipping. Not Priority. This order is estimated to arrive with in 14 business days after completion. There is a caveat: Customs, either US or AUS, Might Delay Delivery, pushing the delivery time to 4 weeks.

So again the Plastic Tokens are now in production.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

I just ordered a set. We should be pretty darn close to 25 by now.

Togo

08-21-2007, 12:18 PM

I just ordered mine. I talked to GF9 at Origins and at GENCON but got only a luke warm response to my request.

Asqlep

08-21-2007, 05:07 PM

Great news indeed!

My previous order with Litko went in after business hours on August 7th, a Tuesday. Friday morning, two business days later, I had a shipping notice waiting in my email box. That Monday I had a package in my mailbox containing my order, from Indiana to California.

Suffice to say, I was pleased with the speed of my transaction.

I just ordered mine. I talked to GF9 at Origins and at GENCON but got only a luke warm response to my request.

Gale Force 9 also makes great products, but based on your's and other's testimony I'd have to say they are no where near as helpful or interested in customer input as Litko is.

Heck, I only wrote to Likto that I would like to see a set like this, and the next day they made it happen (pending preorders). You actually spoke to a GF9 representative and came back with "lukewarm". Speaks volumes to me.

RoyalSovereign

08-21-2007, 05:17 PM

I wonder if I should have asked them to add the straffing token?

Great news indeed!

My previous order with Litko went in after business hours on August 7th, a Tuesday. Friday morning, two business days later, I had a shipping notice waiting in my email box. That Monday I had a package in my mailbox containing my order, from Indiana to California.

Suffice to say, I was pleased with the speed of my transaction.

Gale Force 9 also makes great products, but based on your's and other's testimony I'd have to say they are no where near as helpful or interested in customer input as Litko is.

Heck, I only wrote to Likto that I would like to see a set like this, and the next day they made it happen (pending preorders). You actually spoke to a GF9 representative and came back with "lukewarm". Speaks volumes to me.

Asqlep

08-21-2007, 05:29 PM

I will probably add some to a later order - I was thinking a fluorescent blue arrow, so, same colour as the 'aborted' token. I'll have 10 then, so will probably give some away.

Maybe add some to another order of WaS tokens, since, notw that they are in production, the set can be ordered anytime :)

RoyalSovereign

08-21-2007, 05:46 PM

I agree it does speak volumes. The Litko Aerosystems people were friendly, professional, and supportive. They gave updates regularly, and were always nice. They never made me feel like it was an inconvenience to speak with me. Litko has earned this customers loyalty.

Great news indeed!

My previous order with Litko went in after business hours on August 7th, a Tuesday. Friday morning, two business days later, I had a shipping notice waiting in my email box. That Monday I had a package in my mailbox containing my order, from Indiana to California.

Suffice to say, I was pleased with the speed of my transaction.

Gale Force 9 also makes great products, but based on your's and other's testimony I'd have to say they are no where near as helpful or interested in customer input as Litko is.

Heck, I only wrote to Likto that I would like to see a set like this, and the next day they made it happen (pending preorders). You actually spoke to a GF9 representative and came back with "lukewarm". Speaks volumes to me.

weedsrock2

08-21-2007, 05:57 PM

Bravo! And many thanks to Asqlep and RoyalSovereign for making it happen. This group is going to be so much cooler than everyone else when we play. :p :cool: :D

Jesse_James

08-21-2007, 10:03 PM

Is anyone else having trouble getting into this site right now?

I click on the link and... NOTHING! :(

Can someone try for me, please.

Asqlep

08-21-2007, 10:39 PM

I hate to say it, mate, but I think this one's all you :(.

I was able to enter the site just fine, and also received page update to the Jim's Product Lab section.

Is anyone else having trouble getting into this site right now?

I click on the link and... NOTHING! :(

Can someone try for me, please.

Jesse_James

08-21-2007, 10:59 PM

I hate to say it, mate, but I think this one's all you :(.

I was able to enter the site just fine, and also received page update to the Jim's Product Lab section.

Well now its working.

I clicked on it several times and nothing. :confused:

RoyalSovereign

08-22-2007, 08:58 AM

Thanks Weedrock2 :)

I must say Bravo Zulu to the 21 other community members who ordered sets. when I got involved we only had 13 orders. the community really stepped up when it was needed.

And I offer my thanks again to the leader of this sortie Asqlep. It was thru the good offices of Asqlep that this ball started rolling.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Bravo! And many thanks to Asqlep and RoyalSovereign for making it happen. This group is going to be so much cooler than everyone else when we play. :p :cool: :D

towcritter1966

08-22-2007, 10:29 AM

Great news indeed!

My previous order with Litko went in after business hours on August 7th, a Tuesday. Friday morning, two business days later, I had a shipping notice waiting in my email box. That Monday I had a package in my mailbox containing my order, from Indiana to California.

Suffice to say, I was pleased with the speed of my transaction.

Gale Force 9 also makes great products, but based on your's and other's testimony I'd have to say they are no where near as helpful or interested in customer input as Litko is.

Heck, I only wrote to Likto that I would like to see a set like this, and the next day they made it happen (pending preorders). You actually spoke to a GF9 representative and came back with "lukewarm". Speaks volumes to me.

Can you clarify for me?:confused: If the 25 minimum was just met and "will go into production" how some have already recieved orders? Did you guys do a special order or something? I am just not following.:confused:

towcritter1966

08-22-2007, 10:33 AM

I sold all ten sets of tokens that I took to Gencon. A WOTC guy even bought a set and thought that several others back in the office would be interested. $5 for a set is just too good of a price.

Now, I must really post a picture.

:confused: I must really be missing out on something. what sets of tokens:confused:

Jesse_james I really need a "i cannot brain today, i have the dumb" bumper sticker stapled to my forehead.

TheJudge

08-22-2007, 10:49 AM

I have not received mine yet, does anyone have an approximate date of delivery for these?

Thanks

weedsrock2

08-22-2007, 10:53 AM

:confused: I must really be missing out on something. what sets of tokens:confused:

Jesse_james I really need a "i cannot brain today, i have the dumb" bumper sticker stapled to my forehead.

Go to the first message in this thread. It will explain. Click on the second link in that post if you want to buy them.

weedsrock2

08-22-2007, 11:00 AM

I have not received mine yet, does anyone have an approximate date of delivery for these?

Thanks

RoyalSovereign was estimating late next week (August 30/31ish) in an earlier post.

TheJudge

08-22-2007, 11:12 AM

RoyalSovereign was estimating late next week (August 30/31ish) in an earlier post.

Great, thanks!

RoyalSovereign

08-22-2007, 02:48 PM

Hello Towcritter1966,

Engineer made his own tokens.

:confused: I must really be missing out on something. what sets of tokens:confused:

Jesse_james I really need a "i cannot brain today, i have the dumb" bumper sticker stapled to my forehead.

Engineer

08-22-2007, 06:11 PM

:confused: I must really be missing out on something. what sets of tokens:confused:
I made tokens for WaS. I glued the a photocopy of the cardboard token onto a clear glass bead. On the back goes a piece of foam corresponding to the color of the token. The glass bead makes reading the token much easier.

Like I said, I sold all that I took to Gencon. If you saw me playing WaS in the SWM area, you most likely bought a set of tokens. I'll post a picture in the next day or two. $5 is a lot cheaper than $20.

Muenchausen

08-23-2007, 07:36 AM

I got an e-mail from Litko. A package is on it's way with the tokens.

TheJudge

08-23-2007, 07:41 AM

I got an e-mail from Litko. A package is on it's way with the tokens.

Same here. They got shipped yesterday. Good news. :)

Onward

RoyalSovereign

08-23-2007, 11:09 AM

Mine shipping today Yea :D

Same here. They got shipped yesterday. Good news. :)

Onward

weedsrock2

08-23-2007, 07:10 PM

Hmmm. No message for me today. I will have to contact them if I don't hear from them tomorrow.

weedsrock2

08-23-2007, 07:14 PM

Asqlep said Litko would make the WaS tokens a standard item for order anytime after they got the initial order for 25 sets. Did any of you hear if that is now the case?

Muenchausen

08-23-2007, 09:14 PM

I checked their site amd nothing comes up under their product page. It may take a day or two for them to update their site.

Asqlep

08-24-2007, 12:15 AM

Asqlep said Litko would make the WaS tokens a standard item for order anytime after they got the initial order for 25 sets. Did any of you hear if that is now the case?

Whelp, what I was told in the email from Litko was, "Once we have 25 orders, the sets will all be produced and the set can then be ordered at any time."

The link to order the WaS set is still active, as well as the set for I Ain't Been Shot, Mum, which prompted me to get my fingers moving. I expect Litko my just be trying to figure out how they're going to approach these sorts of products.

I did have an email from Litko waiting on Thursday morning saying my order had shipped as well. Definitely give them a ring and check, Weeds. Like Royal said, Litko reps are very helpful and friendly, and I'd hate for there to be an issue with your order after all your help with this project :(.

RoyalSovereign

08-24-2007, 12:52 AM

Hey Weedrock2,

I spoke to two very nice ladies at Litko. Dee David was the rep quoted in reply #85 of this thread. Before that I spoke to a lady named Lisa twice.
When you call, give them your order number.

As I said in reply#85 they started production that same day. Other members received shipping information a day or two before I received mine.

It appears that Litko is still working to complete the sets. As I said the Estimated completion date was Friday.

In the mean time I have 4 sets arriving next week.

Weed just PM me and I'll send you one of mine to tide you over until yours arrives.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Hmmm. No message for me today. I will have to contact them if I don't hear from them tomorrow.

weedsrock2

08-24-2007, 08:08 AM

Just got the confirmation this morning. Now I can go back to biting my fingernails! :)

Engineer

08-24-2007, 02:27 PM

These are the War at Sea tokens I was using at Gencon.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/cyneburh/tokens/DSC_0278.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/cyneburh/tokens/DSC_0263.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/cyneburh/tokens/DSC_0266.jpg

A complete set of 36 tokens is $5.

I sold all that I took to Gencon and I'll have some more made up late next week.

Jesse_James

08-24-2007, 02:43 PM

These are the pictures of the tokens that I make/sell.

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/cyneburh/tokens/?action=view&current=DSC_0278.jpg

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/cyneburh/tokens/?action=view&current=DSC_0263.jpg

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/cyneburh/tokens/?action=view&current=DSC_0266.jpg

A complete set of 36 tokens is $5.

I sold all that I took to Gencon and I'll have some more made up late next week.

Those are nice.

See what you can make with a little blood and sweat. :cool:

Muenchausen

08-24-2007, 03:48 PM

When i click on the above linl, I get page full of stuff??????

Muenchausen

08-24-2007, 03:49 PM

:D Love it. Engineer your links no longer work but the ones JJ copied does.

Jesse_James

08-24-2007, 04:03 PM

:D Love it. Engineer your links no longer work but the ones JJ copied does.

you are right! :eek:

RoyalSovereign

08-24-2007, 04:21 PM

Very Nice,

but too many little ones afoot here.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

These are the War at Sea tokens I was using at Gencon.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSC_0278.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSC_0263.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSC_0266.jpg

A complete set of 36 tokens is $5.

I sold all that I took to Gencon and I'll have some more made up late next week.

Engineer

08-24-2007, 05:10 PM

:D Love it. Engineer your links no longer work but the ones JJ copied does.
Now you can see the pics. That only took 4 times to figure out. :D

aquarius

08-24-2007, 06:32 PM

That's funny... a Graf Spee and a Koln versus an Iowa and Atlanta.
How did that come to pass?

Jesse_James

08-24-2007, 06:39 PM

That's funny... a Graf Spee and a Koln versus an Iowa and Atlanta.
How did that come to pass?

I am guessing that was just a sample picture and threw in what ever, or that was just what was left in the german fleet.

Muenchausen

08-25-2007, 12:26 PM

I got my order today. They're fantastic. Oughta do something like this for AAM. Excellent idea Asqlep!!!

RoyalSovereign

08-25-2007, 02:11 PM

I just got my order. They're fantastic, perfect, and most important...I can pick them up off of the floor or table without bending or crinkling them.

Asqlep Well Done!!!:D

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Jesse_James

08-25-2007, 06:12 PM

Can someone take some close up picks of them, I wana see how thick the counters are.

"Sink the Bismark"

08-25-2007, 07:45 PM

Can someone take some close up picks of them, I wana see how thick the counters are.

Yes, pics. If I like them I might order some.

Muenchausen

08-25-2007, 08:09 PM

Can someone take some close up picks of them, I wana see how thick the counters are.

If no one beats me to it, I'll do it tomorrow after work.

Asqlep

08-25-2007, 08:18 PM

I'm really glad that everyone who's received theirs is happy with the set! When I wrote Litko, it really wasn't a proposition - more of a "I'd like to see." I'm glad others felt the same :D

If no one beats me to it, I'll do it tomorrow after work.

Aye - mine did not arrive today, so I won't be able to post pics until Monday at the earliest.

My green blip counters that I posted pics of earlier in the thread are two pennies thickness. I imagine the stock used for the custom counters are the same.

Speaking of custom counters, there are several new shapes on Litko's site - cool stuff :cool:

Muenchausen

08-25-2007, 08:26 PM

Just to give you an idea, They are 1/8th inch thick. The destroyed and objective counters are circular, 3/4 diameter. The damage counters are square 3/4 X 3/4. They are a hard plastic. I had the impression from the picture that they would be kind of rubbery, they're not. I have two more sets on order and I plan on ordering the flame counter later on. In a nut shell, everyhting is bigger, easier to read and pick up.

RoyalSovereign

08-26-2007, 02:07 PM

Just finished playing a three country 100 pt. skirmish. Used the new counters. Everyone loved the new counters. Accidently dropped one onto the floor. It was easily picked up. Everyone there loved them.

Playing co-worker, and his son. I took: Rodney, Exeter, 2x Javelin, and 2x Sea Hurricane.

Co-worker took: Bismark, Scharnhorst, Karl Galster, Kondor.

Co-workers Son took: Washington, Baltimore, 2X Fletcher, Barb.

I took out: Bismark, Baltimore, 1 Fletcher, Co worker Took out Both Javelins and Exeter and 1 Fletcher. Son took out everything else except my Sea Hurricanes. Having no ships left. I conceded to son who still had washington. An enjoyable game made more so by the new plastic counters.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

Muenchausen

08-26-2007, 04:35 PM

If no one beats me to it, I'll do it tomorrow after work.

JJ I haven't forgot, I have to charge my camera battery. Mine too.

Muenchausen

08-26-2007, 04:58 PM

Well, here they are.

Jesse_James

08-26-2007, 05:30 PM

you should be a hand model. :p

Stojakovic_The Great

08-26-2007, 06:23 PM

And you should know. Trust me Wife swares by your hands

towcritter1966

08-28-2007, 05:38 AM

Mine arrived in the mail yesterday! Sweet! Can't wait to put them to use this weekend.:D

Thoes426

08-28-2007, 06:12 AM

Thanks for posting the pictures, they look as good as i had hoped!
While ordering my set, i created a custom set for my Star Wars mini's and will go back next month or month after and do the same for A&A mini's (ground forces).
If someone with a camera gets the explosion or flame piece please post a few pic's for us.
I've already ordered some smoke pieces and radar blips due to seeing them here next to the ships.

This was a great find, Asqlep... Thanks for sharing your discovery with the group!

Thoes426

Taisho Bo

08-28-2007, 06:53 AM

ah yes, zee germans zey are winning!
zee new status indicator mechanisms are functioning correctly, herr Ubersturmfuhrer.

Muenchausen

08-28-2007, 10:27 AM

Thoes426

08-29-2007, 06:05 AM

For the AA minis, are you going to do the same thing ASQLP did/ If so I'm interested.

If no one beats me to it, Yes, I will do same as ASQLP, and have them create a bulk game specific set.
Thoes426

RoyalSovereign

09-14-2007, 01:51 PM

Thanks Again Asqlep for getting this ball rolling.

Maynard James Keenan

09-14-2007, 09:50 PM

can I still order these tokens? Or did the ship leave without me. :(

weedsrock2

09-15-2007, 02:21 PM

can I still order these tokens? Or did the ship leave without me. :(

According to Asqlep's first post Litko was planning to offer these as a regular item once they got the first 25 orders. However, I could not find it on their site. I would suggest you email them and ask. Their web site is:

http://www.litkoaero.com

There is a 'contact us' link on the home page.

PS. I love mine!

Snippersly

09-15-2007, 05:50 PM

but I'm not wild about their transparency

Just use Miniature paint and paint the bottom of the tokens so they won't be see through...

aquarius

09-15-2007, 06:11 PM

Litko doesn't have anything about WaS on their website, does anyone know if they will be updating it soon?

Muenchausen

09-15-2007, 08:43 PM

Litko doesn't have anything about WaS on their website, does anyone know if they will be updating it soon?

The best people to ask is Litko.

weedsrock2

09-15-2007, 09:46 PM

Just use Miniature paint and paint the bottom of the tokens so they won't be see through...

That is a good idea. I don't mind the transparency except the printing is not very bold so it is hard to read. I was thinking about carefully painting the text more solidly with white paint. But I know it won't look very good if I do it with my shaky hands. Painting the back side a very dark tone of the token color may work.

I told Litko I was not completely pleased with the text printing in the satisfaction survey they sent me. Still, I like them a whole lot more than the thin cardboard one's that come in the starter set. At least I can grab them with my fingers quickly and easily.

Engineer

09-16-2007, 05:19 PM

I don't mind the transparency except the printing is not very bold so it is hard to read.

At least I can grab them with my fingers quickly and easily.
Check out the tokens in my sig.

weedsrock2

09-16-2007, 07:47 PM

Check out the tokens in my sig.

Is that felt backing on the beads? That is a cool idea.

Engineer

09-17-2007, 01:33 AM

Is that felt backing on the beads? That is a cool idea.
Felt wears off too fast. The backing is foam.

RoyalSovereign

09-21-2007, 11:27 AM

can I still order these tokens? Or did the ship leave without me. :(

Hey Maynard,

I have six sets of the plastic tokens. PM your address and I'll send you a set.

Friendly Regards,
Michael Taylor

RoyalSovereign

09-21-2007, 11:38 AM

The first post in this thread has a link to special order the plastic tokens from Litko.

Engineer's tokens are also very nice. They are $15.00 cheaper than Litko and made on a glass bead with foam bottom. I prefer the Litko tokens only because they kept the game system design of the tokens.

aquarius

09-21-2007, 12:29 PM

OOOH, can I have a free set too???? ;)

RoyalSovereign

09-27-2007, 08:01 AM

Sent today :)

OOOH, can I have a free set too???? ;)

RoyalSovereign

10-01-2007, 09:07 PM

I also like Litko's smoke screens

Rebel_Commander

10-01-2007, 09:30 PM

I have a fellow gamer who has purchased these tokens and i have used them in games and found them to be great. the transparency isnt that much of an issue because the blue from themap interferes with what u can see. they are very nice though and i have since purchased a set. they are a great thing to have. very nice

jack pearl

10-03-2007, 06:42 AM

I just ordered two sets...can't wait to get them!

aquarius

10-03-2007, 08:54 AM

How did you get them? By following the original link in this thread?

Muenchausen

10-03-2007, 09:05 AM

How did you get them? By following the original link in this thread?

Yes, I ordered another set and the fire and smoke tokens. I want to see how they look with the minis.

RangerDane

10-03-2007, 10:42 AM

would love to see a few photos of how the fire and smoke screens look

Jesse_James

10-03-2007, 12:15 PM

would love to see a few photos of how the fire and smoke screens look

I don't have fire but I have smoke screens..............

give me a sec... ;)

EDIT:

Here some smoke screens size comparison with some ships/islands

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4527/smokesrg1.jpg

Jesse_James

10-03-2007, 01:37 PM

By any chance does anyone know if I can order blank square chips?

aquarius

10-03-2007, 03:08 PM

EDIT: My information was incorrect, the tokens are 20.00 Sorry!! :(

Stormhawk4107

10-03-2007, 08:43 PM

Here are two pictures using smoke and Ice counters I found from this thread.
http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?p=294201

In the first two Luca's combine their smoke to help a damaged Bolzano reach the safety of the island while the Canberra and Exeter bore down on her. The third Luca helps conceal the Graf Spee as it moves in to assist. One of our house rules is if two destroyers with lay smoke combine the concealment role goes from 5-6 to 4-6, giving a better chance to evade.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Stormhawk4107/100_2084.jpg

This is the same picture but I added the Ice wall to show how we display Icebergs in Arctic scenario's.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Stormhawk4107/100_2083.jpg

Jesse_James

10-03-2007, 09:32 PM

Those are nice, I think I may buy some to use as fog or squal tokens.

RoyalSovereign

10-04-2007, 10:53 AM

I asked Litko about them, and they are now down to 10 dollars!!!!! YAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!! (in honor of Jesse_James)

Sorry All,

I just spoke to Dee of Litko Aerosystems. I asked if the plastic tokens price had been lowered to $10.00.

She checked, and told me that the price had not been lowered. It is still $20 for 40 tokens.

She also said that they are in the process of putting a direct link on the Litko Website. The Estimated time frame is 2 weeks to 1 month.

She asked that anyone interested in purchasing the tokens access the Litko website at www.litkoaero.com

Click on the contact litko link and e-mail them that you are looking for the Axis and Allies War At Sea custom tokens. and give them your e-mail address

She said that she would e-mail a direct link to you so you could place your order. Litko has been just outstanding with their customer service.

Respectfully Submitted,
Michael Taylor

Jesse_James

10-04-2007, 12:05 PM

I asked Litko about them, and they are now down to 10 dollars!!!!! YAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!! (in honor of Jesse_James)

I just need blank ones as a base to glue them other things on. :)

Ya think they sell basic square chits?

LitkoJim

10-04-2007, 12:31 PM

EDIT: My information was incorrect, the tokens are 20.00 Sorry!! :(

Hi,
This is Jim from Litko. I just wanted to clarify that indeed the price is not $10.00, but is $20 for the 40 token set. I had sent aquarius a link to order them and made a typo on the link which made him believe they are 10 bucks.

Sorry for the mixup.

As for blank tokens, we can make them any shape you can imagine. Just email me jim@litkoaero.com with your specific needs and I'll set you up with a quote and a link to order them, hopefully with the right price!
Jim

Jesse_James

10-04-2007, 01:06 PM

As for blank tokens, we can make them any shape you can imagine. Just email me jim@litkoaero.com with your specific needs and I'll set you up with a quote and a link to order them, hopefully with the right price!
Jim

NICE thanks, you are on my cool list.

By the way have you ever thought about making squall counters?

Maybe a thunder cloud on a little peg?

LitkoJim

10-05-2007, 09:14 AM

I'll add elevated storm clouds, and regular clouds to the Jim's Lab list. It will be awhile before I get to do the Naval tokens and bases, but I'll be doing these as part of the test product releases.
Thanks for the suggestion.
jim@litkoaero.com

Jesse_James

10-05-2007, 11:06 AM

RoyalSovereign

10-09-2007, 07:24 PM

Good News All,

You can now purchase the WAS Tokens directly from the Litko Aerosystems Website.

They are 40 tokens for $19.95

Go to: www.litkoaero.com

Click on Online Store Link.

Order Code TS045

Respectfully Submitted,
Michael Taylor

jack pearl

10-10-2007, 07:00 PM

Mine were shipped out two days ago...can't wait to get them! :)

oddfellow

10-10-2007, 07:37 PM

Muenchausen

10-10-2007, 08:51 PM

Mine were shipped out two days ago...can't wait to get them! :)

My order also. They must wait until they get enough orders and then make them.

Stormhawk4107

10-10-2007, 09:10 PM

A friend ordered one of the cloth maps from Hotmapz someone linked to the board. we're going to see how that fares when it arrives.

jack pearl

10-11-2007, 07:22 PM

My order also. They must wait until they get enough orders and then make them.

I got mine today and am really happy with them. I like how thick they are...makes them easier to pick up off the map. Although the crippled tokens shaped like a triangle are somewhat of a challenge. :)

uberdag

10-12-2007, 03:24 PM

just ordered a set of litko, will probably order a set of the glass ones here in a week or so from enginer or who ever it was, but group i play with wanted the fancy plastic.

ericjohn

10-23-2007, 09:34 AM

These pictures are just crying out for some plexi-glass. $13.00 at Home Depot for a 30" x 36" sheet & you can keep score on them with dry erase markers.

I just wanted to say thanks for the suggestion oddfellow - I'd seen plexiglass mentioned on the boards before but your post was so specific that I ran out and did it, and it's awesome.

I don't know if it will last (not sure if it's from the protective plastic adhesive or static electricity) but once I set the plexiglass down the maps and islands stick to it so well I can move it from place to place, etc.

uberdag

10-23-2007, 05:00 PM

What color are the dmg counters and the critical counters for you set.

Mine are orange for the dmg and yellow for the critical.

Just curious?

Andrew(Dru)

10-25-2007, 06:13 AM

Nice.

I just ordered 2 sets of the tokens and a bunch of other stuff (including the blip markers for hidden sub movement).

Great stuff.

Any ideas on the best (cheapest) place to get islands?

Dru

Jesse_James

10-25-2007, 08:14 AM

Nice.

I just ordered 2 sets of the tokens and a bunch of other stuff (including the blip markers for hidden sub movement).

Great stuff.

Any ideas on the best (cheapest) place to get islands?

Dru

GF9 sells some island 6 for 30 bucks. Made of hard plastic very nice. They are suppose to be for pirates but they work great with WAS. You can try ebay as well. I got 2 sets of islands (24 total islands) for 24 bucks. :) Brand new never open too!

Stormhawk4107

10-25-2007, 10:26 AM

What color are the dmg counters and the critical counters for you set.

Mine are orange for the dmg and yellow for the critical.

Just curious?

All the Litko stuff are the same. Orange for damage, clear for objectives, blue for aborted, green for re-arming, yellow for critical and black for destroyed.

Dragonman505

11-03-2007, 05:22 AM

:) Hello, as a stopgap measure I printed my own tokens on a transparency sheet with my scanner and printer. They are almost paper thin but they will hold up much better that the cardboard ones will. With this method you can make them whatever size and color you want. You could even print them with your name on them top keep track of them better if you wanted.:)

Respectfully,
Dragonman505

Slaine

11-04-2007, 05:05 AM

Hey guys! I just joined this forum but have been lurking for several weeks. I had bought some extra tokens to represent additional troops for the AA board game. When I got my WAS minis I took the combat tokens and superglued them to some of the extra chips I had. I used enough glue so that when pressed down on, the glue seeped out from under the chip and sealed the edges of the paper chips to the token.

While not as cool as the custom tokens (I'm gonna buy a couple of sets of them). They do work very well and only cost me a little time. Just another option to consider.

Islander

11-07-2007, 10:28 AM

I bought a set of these Litko tokens. They are great because they stand up on edge. I had a little trouble telling s 1-damage counter from a 2-damage counter so I took a black permanent marker and filled in the four small sides of the 2-damage tokens. Now they work even better. Litko markers rock

MillMaster

11-07-2007, 10:53 AM

Has anyone got a set of the Litko smoke or weather markers?

I have some of the GF9 smoke makers, but I find them to be a bit cumbersome for my taste.

Also, Litko has a great "rain" marker as part of their weather marker set, but the only problem is its only 3 cm high. If they could make that twice the size it would be perfect for a squall.

Anyone have pix of either of these?

ericjohn

11-07-2007, 12:02 PM

Has anyone got a set of the Litko smoke or weather markers?

I got some of the smoke columns (I think Medium size)

Now, they don't really look like smoke *screens* but they get the job done and I like 'em. When I'm not playing a scenario with smoke screens I use them instead of crippled markers (for surface ships) and it adds some flavor

Asqlep

11-07-2007, 02:12 PM

So, I never wrote an update to this thread (classes started - arrgh) after I received my own set of markers, but I can safely say that I am pleased with my purchase. Though the etched printing is a little dim, the cuts are sharp and the colours really POP on the game mat.

With the tokens dialed in, that leaves the other two components to take care of that are lacking in the quality department - the thin paper playmat and the cardboard islands. I have my mat laminated, and keeping the A&A graphics are the first priority to me, so the next step there will be professional mounting. The cardboard islands will be my next candidate for replacement.

For the islands, I am looking at something like this:
http://www.io.com/~beckerdo/games/articles/SettlersI.html

Besides looking good on the table, it's also important to me that they match the official Hasbro-included islands. That was my biggest beef with the GF9 islands - they looked great, but while I didn't play Pirates they still didn't seem to match any of the card islands included in that game (though maybe they did in later sets, just not the first).

When and if I get started on some custom islands, I'll start a new thread.

Regarding Litko Smoke Columns - I have some pictures posted waaaaaaaay back in this thread. I'll page back and find a link for you, if the links are even still any good! :)

Edit - Here it is:
http://boards.avalonhill.com/showpost.php?p=295381&postcount=67

Vornargith

11-07-2007, 04:12 PM

Those islands are sweet ... the supplies aren't cheap, but once you make a dozen molds, you're set. Thanks for the link ... it's definitely bookmarked!

Asqlep

11-07-2007, 04:55 PM

Those islands are sweet ... the supplies aren't cheap, but once you make a dozen molds, you're set. Thanks for the link ... it's definitely bookmarked!

Aye! I've done a lot of my own resin casting, so yes - it can get pricey. For anyone looking to break into it, I give you this advice: start with the silicon mold material! I tried out both latex and urethane before silicon (those options are less expensive), but it just wasn't worth the savings. Silicon is just easier to work with, both for making the mold AND casting the models.

That said, I probably won't be making any molds of my islands - I only really want a single set for myself and will probably just stick with matching what Hasbro provided on the cards. One can always make molds from the painted masters later, and any damage can be easily touched up.

Of course, I also have to get the time and motivation to start the project - it might be a Set II sort of thing :)

If you liked that site, do a google search for more 3D Settlers boards. I remember finding a few, and actually, if I remember correctly, there's a couple links on that site as well to other 3D Settlers projects.

Glad you found it helpful! :)

Jesse_James

11-13-2007, 05:08 PM

NEAT-O

http://www.litkoaero.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TS051&Category_Code=TS

:)

Jesse_James

11-13-2007, 05:12 PM

For the islands, I am looking at something like this:
http://www.io.com/~beckerdo/games/articles/SettlersI.html

Even More Neat-O

:)

Vornargith

11-13-2007, 06:54 PM

After looking into the resin molds, I'm a bit discouraged at the cost ... especially for larger islands and land masses :(. I'd have to intend to make a lot of them and sell them to make it worthwhile. My foam islands work great for the time being I guess ... but I can't stop thinking about the resin ones.

Asqlep

12-14-2007, 10:49 PM

I am a bit long in the reply here, but maybe others might find the advice useful. Yeah, you've hit the nail right on the head here. Each project you take on might need a little cost analysis work. I know that, with all the different island types, my prototype won't have molds made from them - they'll be the originals.

I've done a lot of resin casting projects, making prototypes, molds, and casting, and I learned mainly through trial and error. It is A LOT of fun, and very rewarding, but if it's something you're going to cast, say, three times, you'll find it might not be worth it.

After looking into the resin molds, I'm a bit discouraged at the cost ... especially for larger islands and land masses :(. I'd have to intend to make a lot of them and sell them to make it worthwhile. My foam islands work great for the time being I guess ... but I can't stop thinking about the resin ones.