Interesting or Suicidal G1 build?

[Vollick1979]

An AC for the Baltic and save 24 IPC's. This will allow Germany to essentially see what strategy the UK and USA choose to go with and then adapt to it. The drawback is of course 1 turn less getting your infantry to the front but i'm willing to see what some far more intelligent people than I have to say about this one.

[axis_roll]

What would you do with all that money on G2 buy? I guess I am trying to figure out why you would need to be able to spend $66 on something on G2? If it were all boats, then you'd have two turns of no ground units... not sure Germany can afford to do that.

[Kaufschtick]

I vote suicide, IMHO :)

[cousin_joe]

I vote suicide, IMHO :)
I would agree, suicide. 'Nuff said. :)

[series]

unless you have some crazy scheme for the following rounds... I say suicide

[Doctor Strategy]

An AC for the Baltic and save 24 IPC's. This will allow Germany to essentially see what strategy the UK and USA choose to go with and then adapt to it. The drawback is of course 1 turn less getting your infantry to the front but i'm willing to see what some far more intelligent people than I have to say about this one.

It could be interesting. As the US has to bring their units to Germany via Transports. A fully stocked AC can help stall this. If you feel you can take out Britain quick then it may be a good gamble. Also with an AC there you can torpedo the Royal Navy and possibly prepare for a G2-3 Operation Sealion. However, you may wish to spend the remaining 24 IPCs on 3 transports to assault the UK or two fighters. If the UK buys an IC in India and doesn't shore up their defences in the UK, so much the better for you. :D

However, to totally not buy ground troops may be folly as the Russians may soon be knocking on your door. Where are the Japanese in Moscow when you need them? If you feel you can take out Britain quick then it may be a good gamble.

[Kaufschtick]

Buy a carrier? Could be a good thing, could wind up being not so good. Not spending the 24 IPC's...my vote is suicide on this aspect. :) Not the carrier part. :)

[sking500]

An AC for the Baltic and save 24 IPC's. This will allow Germany to essentially see what strategy the UK and USA choose to go with and then adapt to it. The drawback is of course 1 turn less getting your infantry to the front but i'm willing to see what some far more intelligent people than I have to say about this one.

Neither the UK, nor US would allow a German AC to sit off the coast of UK for too long, even fully stocked. It would have to endure UK and Russian turns attempting to knock it out of the game. Besides, what would it do that having a land-based fighter and some change (that could be used to defend against Russia) in it's place not do? Aren't most targets Germany wants to go after initially within land-based fighter range?

[Black_Elk]

I can't speak to the carrier build in the Baltic, personally I've never thought that build was worth it.

But I can say that I have played a German stall and save strategy... and it worked out rather well. But in my case I bought 1 fighter and saved the rest.

On g2 I had 68 bucks to spend

I built 3 transports 1 destroyer and the rest Inf. I moved a few troops from Germany into the Balkans and placed my new navy in the Med.

From there on out I was pretty consistant with inf builds to defend Germany and funnel troops out of Italy... Africa was a shoe-in and the Russians had a very difficult time hanging on to the Caucus.

I haven't tested this enough to say for certain whether its a suicide move. IN my game the Russian's failed to take the Ukraine on R1 which may have had something to do with things. I have to admit though I'm beginging to seriously consider this as a viable strategy. Its one of the few moves that I've seen (in standard AH rules) that can throw a wrench in an all out KGF strategy.

[TrimChris]

I buy the carrier 9 times out of 10. As for as the other 24, Germany always needs more infantry so buying them won't go to waste and I think it makes Germany more flexible than the cash in hand since G is so infantry lite at game start.

[AxisRoll]

if you had 66 and decided to spend on all ground units, you would be stuck with only buying 16 units.

[Vollick1979]

Well it appears most of you think it's suicide... so let me ask a question: If Germany at the end of G1 (in which it only buys 1 AC) controls Karelia, Belarus, and Ukr with a single inf, is in Anglo Egypt and collects 42 IPC's. What would your response be with UK and on the Atlantic side with the USA?

And by the way I really appreciate everyone's responses... even the guys who said suicide with no explanation! :)

[axis_roll]

Well it appears most of you think it's suicide... so let me ask a question: If Germany at the end of G1 (in which it only buys 1 AC) controls Karelia, Belarus, and Ukr with a single inf, is in Anglo Egypt and collects 42 IPC's. What would your response be with UK and on the Atlantic side with the USA?

And by the way I really appreciate everyone's responses... even the guys who said suicide with no explanation! :)

At this point, I would run my usual allied game plan (KGF), especially since you haven't bought any ground units to slow my USSR forces ~OR~ pieces to slow my Atlantic navy.

[SCIPIO]

so what do you normally do on G1? I'm reading only critics on the carrier plan but didn't read any real suggestion...
Say that at the end of R1, Russia held Belorussia with 1 Inf, Ukraine with 3 Arm, and West Russia with 4 Inf, 1 Art, 2 Arm, the Sub is with the UK fleet and Karelia is open. Caucasus has 3 Inf, 2 Fgt, 1 Art.

so has Germany what you do? For example, do you take Karelia from Norway leaving the latter free to UK (USA) invasion? What you do with the baltic fleet, do you stay there or you try to reach the Med blocking Western EU sea zone? Do you amph. attack Caucasus?