Clausewitz's new Avatar...

[series]

is awesome! lol...

[DocD]

For Series the Fuhrer, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE!

[series]

For Series the Fuhrer, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE!
I'm just a bill...

[DocD]

I'm just a bill...
Yeah, but this weekend series was "just a Fuhrer!"

[series]

Yeah, but this weekend series was "just a Fuhrer!"heh heh...

Hey, I have 996 posts! When i reach 999, I will never post again. So say goodbye to Series!

I got into the new avatar spirit myself!

[DocD]

goodbye series!!!!!!!!!!

[cousin_joe]

heh heh...

Hey, I have 996 posts! When i reach 999, I will never post again. So say goodbye to Series!

I got into the new avatar spirit myself!
This might be the best news I've heard all week :D I have a strange suspicion though that he's lying :p

[TrimChris]

999 posts. 99.9% gibberish!

[TrimChris]

And I always thought that Clause's ideas were too reminiscient of Mein Kampf. :)

[Molotov Cocktail]

If an avatar of one of the world's most evil murderers is cool ... then yeah I guess it's pretty cool. Pretty sick.

[series]

Hitler wasn't a murderer, he was the guy who told murderers to kill people. It would be like blaming Einstien for killing the Japanese- he unlocked the secret, but other people used it.

:p

[Molotov Cocktail]

The poeple who were taking orders from Hitler to murder people would have been shot themselves had they not done his biding. Sorry series, when the commander of an army tells his officers to solve the jewish question and orders that MILLIONS be gased then that's murder.

The point is try doing some reading on some of the things Hitler did to the Russians and the jews. It was pretty sick stuff. I don't care if he didn't pull the swith but as commander in chief of the army he was the final authority on whether or not some people were killed.

To take the time to do an avatar of a pictur of Hitler tells me that some poeple should find more constructive things to do with their time. if you want to glorify him then go ahead. He (Hitler) wasn't a nice guy by the way.

And since I am on the topic, series, I seem to recall somebody wanting/thinking about making a game of the holocaust. I won't waste my time trying to explain to you why that is in bad taste. But I recall you never said "Sorry if my dumb idea offended anyone". If you did then I retract that statement. It offended me and probably some others.

So in closing series I would appreciate it that if you are going to carry on a dialogue with me you a) do some research first b) think about two seconds before you post something.

Sorry if I have offended anyone with this post. This is the last thing that I will say with reagrds to this matter. And remember series you asked what people thought. That's what I think.

MC

[series]

Hitler wasn't a murderer, he was the guy who told murderers to kill people. It would be like blaming Einstien for killing the Japanese- he unlocked the secret, but other people used it.

:p
See, I put the ":p" face as an indication that i was being sarcastic. However, I think that anyone to "hate" clausewitz over his new icon is a big idiot, it's all in fun. People here have no sense of sarcasm!

[DocD]

See, I put the ":p" face as an indication that i was being sarcastic. However, I think that anyone to "hate" clausewitz over his new icon is a big idiot, it's all in fun. People here have no sense of sarcasm!
So, I see Series has lied to me again....at 999 posts, I'm gone.
Bad Series. You are a very bad series.

[series]

So, I see Series has lied to me again....at 999 posts, I'm gone.
Bad Series. You are a very bad series.
Sorry, I had to extend the post limit in case I win at uncon. When uncon is over.........

[cousin_joe]

Sorry, I had to extend the post limit in case I win at uncon. When uncon is over.........When uncon is over, you'll still be around to annoy us... :rolleyes:

You series, are like the dark, brown, dried-up piece of poop that clings to a white poodle's butt!!! :D

[pagan]

molotov cockatail --> You seem to have the igneous righteous thumb stuck somewhere. Now let's get down to logic shall we.... Your view is as 'tainted' as is anyone else's. A popular view is still a personal view and as such has as much bearing in truth/falsity (validity) as ANY OTHER statement of opinion. And as such your advice, if it is poinant advice, should be taken at first by the one who dares to make the statement.

My personal opinion on the matter is that it was war. If you win, then so what. If I was to wage war with a country and I knew that if I could kill alot of women and children to get my enemy to quit, then I would do it. There are no rules to war. You wage war to win. If I am losing and still want my 'Will' to stand then I will do what is necessary to do so. I will kill my captives, I will kill my undesireables. I may lose, but I will still win in some things.

[Molotov Cocktail]

series--> I never said I hated anyone I just said the avatar was in bad taste. And if you were joking then sorry for going off on you like that, but maybe you could joke about other things, please. It's a sensitive topic for some. A lot of people died needlesly.

Pagan--> Go stick your righteous thumb somewhere. Killing soldiers is one thing, killing civilians is another. Yes there are rules to war. Have you ever heard of the Geneva Convention? (And yes I know that it didn't come into effect until after WW2). Anyway if you don't like my opinion then that's okay. I don't really like yours. Maybe I went off on series a little hard but it was a dark period in history, one I have done some reading on. If you HAVE done some reading on the concentration camps (have you?) and it doesn't bother you ... well nothing I can do about that. If you think that those facts are distorted or that my opinions are too well that's fine too. I think I can figure out your opinion on the matter. Let's just drop it. You got your shot in, I got mine.

I think this should have been put under general discussion. Nothing really to do with AA. That's probably what got me going in the first place.

[series]

My personal opinion on the matter is that it was war. If you win, then so what. If I was to wage war with a country and I knew that if I could kill alot of women and children to get my enemy to quit, then I would do it. There are no rules to war. You wage war to win. If I am losing and still want my 'Will' to stand then I will do what is necessary to do so. I will kill my captives, I will kill my undesireables. I may lose, but I will still win in some things.
"All is fair in love and war". Even though I don't think civilians should have been killed (Hitler went a lil trigger-happy at the end), it was war after all, and secondly, if they ended up under the soviets, they may have been worse off!

When uncon is over, you'll still be around to annoy us... :rolleyes:

You series, are like the dark, brown, dried-up piece of poop that clings to a white poodle's butt!!! :D
Whoa... too much info pervert! :p

[cousin_joe]

Whoa... too much info pervert! :p Sorry series, maybe you're right. :) Maybe I did disclose too much info about your poodle. You really ought to clean it's butt though :p

[Stephen]

My personal opinion on the matter is that it was war. If you win, then so what. If I was to wage war with a country and I knew that if I could kill alot of women and children to get my enemy to quit, then I would do it. There are no rules to war. You wage war to win. If I am losing and still want my 'Will' to stand then I will do what is necessary to do so. I will kill my captives, I will kill my undesireables. I may lose, but I will still win in some things.

There may be no rules to war, but there is rationality in war, and conduct in war must consider the goals in the period after war. In Iraq, the US is finding this out the hard way!

Anyways, Pagan, your conception of war seems to leave a lot of room for terrorist activities as legitimate conduct between actors who are more or less unable to declare war in any kind of an official sense. Do you think terrorist acts are legitimate?

[Carlo]

oh no, we're doing that again, this is the haunt of Zombie! S.O.S, I'm requesting moderators help! ALIVE INSIDE!

[destroyer666_2003]

By the way, the Geneva Convention was in effect for WWII, but I am not sure about WWI. The British and American soldiers who fell into Japanese hands early in Malaya and Philipines found out the Japanese did not honor the conventions either, but then again they thought surrender worse than death, thus shaming the names and families of all soldiers who surrendered. But the rules are always written by the winners. The winner of a war writes the lessons, just as the Soviets did over the peoples they enslaved.

Tkae the splitting of poland by the Ribbontrop-Molotov Pact. The soviets came in, militarily, and slaughtered peoples in ways reminiscent of what Hitler and the mobile death squads around eastern Europe and Russia did. They murdered surrendered officers by the thousands. There was a mass grave near Lvov containing some 30000 murdered Polish officers and political captives. The Soviets, after the war, tried to blame it on the Nazi's, but forensic evidence doesn't lie Mr. Stalin.

Base case in point, 1939 through 1945 was one messed up, but very interesting time in period to learn about, especially when you go back and find the roots of the problems.

I mean come on, one man was able to run a country from top to bottom, and was, frankly, evil. He did this all with national pride? I mean christ, I am glad this doesn't happen every 2 or 3 decades.

Base case in point, Hitler, Stalin, Yamamoto, Hirohito. Evil. Many others, evil. We even had a little bit of evil in ourselves when we pushed the Japanese decendents into concentration camps after Pearl Harbor.

I am glad the allies won, but it is the most thing to play on a board game because it emcompassed the whole world, and took the fight to every corner of the globe.

I am glad we all play these games, and liking, as I do, being the Germans doesn't mean I like Nazi-ism or Hitler, it is just fun to be the underdogs of history and rewrite it.

Mike

[destroyer666_2003]

And one last reply, if Hitler hadn't ordered the stupidity with the Jewish, he would have had a lot more manpower to exploit for labor or the army. A lot of intelligent, able bodied people died instead of being used.

[Gorak]

If I recall correctly, many were used for slave labour to help feed the war machine. I'd say "free" labour to make weapons and such was a pretty good use in his eyes.