Pull my..........

[Frog]

Did I get your attention???

Pull my Thread.

This is my official displeasure with the pulling of threads. I say this for some thoughts I have had lately on this forum.

1) I see many threads that are moved because they don’t directly relate to A&A topics. However I see those same moderators taking about things that also don’t relate to A&A topics, but rather in general discussion. Why not pull ALL these threads???

2) People have commented on the decrease of traffic. I have a thought, I for one, and several others don’t want to search for topics on A&A mixed in with classified's and topics of all AH games, therefore we have decreased our time on this site.

3) Bullies (much like I am trying to be, but am not good at) have pushed many people around because they don’t like certain topics or threads so they want them moved out of their site and have been successful. This encourages others to bully and get their way.


It is too bad a person can’t go to the Axis & Allies forum and find any topic about A&A revised that is possible without having to search for them. I know when this forum was busy it was very crowded and the sub-topic places were not a bad idea.

So I propose that if people want to post about a tournament, or results, or their gaming group ideas, what tank was best, alternate ideas, or anything related to A&A revised their post not be moved. This is what attracted many people to this site, the quick availability of opinions and ideas in one place.

I understand the need to make sure threads are free of offensive material, etc. But let the topics stay, what does it hurt???


There, I have had my say. I’m sure this will be moved soon so no-one will be able to see anymore anyway.

[Moderator Sinister]

Rooms are created for specific discussions and the mods have increased the number of rooms to better organize the material on this website. AH agrees with the changes, Wizards agrees, the mods agree, and 99% of the feedback I've received on the creation of these rooms has been positive. I think with all the new rules and ideas, and the fact that some A&A boards are going by the wayside, this is the perfect time to be organized.

The board system isn't perfect. Sometimes things are in a gray area and it's up to us to make a judgement call, for instance, the thread about WWII tanks, was discussed by the mods and all agreed it should stay in the A&A forum since its loosley related to the topic at hand. Sometimes we miss a thread, sometimes a thread starts while we are not online, and sometimes we don't move a thread right away, because we wish to confer with each other, and sometimes the thread starts with one subject and then changes direction.

There is no right of the membership to tell the mods when and where to move things. If you feel that strongly about a thread then you can PM us, we always listen. We really do prefer to deal with issues through PM since it gives us a chance to work on a personal level. Also, we have been very careful and will continue to be careful in leaving redirects to moved threads.

Yes I'm moving, not pulling, this thread because it is a META BOARD issue, not an A&A issue.

[smo63]

Well, I guess after reading this thread, I could not help chiming in. I, in one respect, have to agree with Frog on the placement of such threads. When AA advertisements or events are posted, I believe that they are viewed half as much if they were on the main portion of the site...this hurts the events out there that some might be very well interested in.

I know there needs to be rules governing this site and the threads that are posted, that is where Mod. Sin, comes in but it would be nice to somehow make sure that the events/classified area could somehow be linked to the main page in the effort to help promote the game more on a FTF level...?

Anyhow, just my two cents?
GS:)

[Moderator Sinister]

The classifieds don't get the attention they deserve and I'm trying to work on that particular issue. Things are progessing slowly but it's at the top of the project list.

I do like the idea of the main page link and will run that past my lead. As I said before I'm always open to ideas on how to make this forum a better place.

[RuHurt]

I don't see what the problem with "not seeing" the thread would be; when I come here, I just click "New Posts," and can see all the posts made in my absence. I'm sure I'm not the only one doing that, and if someone's really that worried about missing a thread, he can follow suit... just MHO.

[Sinister]

that is a very cool feature of the boards.

[tactical]

What the hell?!!!!!!
There are two Sinisters? Or is Mod Sinister the same as Sinister? Funny, I've never seen them both at the same time, makes you wonder??????hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... ;)

[RuHurt]

I think they're different people, Tactical... though I guess you never can tell! ;) :D

[DXfoxman]

And they're both from Indiana.... lock your doors.

Bullies (much like I am trying to be, but am not good at) have pushed many people around because they don’t like certain topics or threads so they want them moved out of their site and have been successful. This encourages others to bully and get their way.

Bullies? I've heard alot of stuff around here. But bullies? I, personally, have never seen this happen, ever. I'm not sure, maybe we just have a different definition of bully.

[Yoper]

Ask pagan. Just don't ask for a read receipt.

[tactical]

Bullies? I've heard alot of stuff around here. But bullies? I, personally, have never seen this happen, ever. I'm not sure, maybe we just have a different definition of bully.


Actually, a long time ago we had a person by the user name of Zombie, a complet (Edited), all he did was troll the boards, got a dedication thread to soldiers shut down, called all soldiers murderes, said it would have been better if Hitler would have been able to have defeated tha Allies, and just anhilited anyone who disagreed with his/her views.

But, besides for this one individual, I do not consider anyone else who posts, to be a bully.(that I know of)

[Carlo]

tactic
half of the thing you're saying about Zombies are uncorrect, he was just a provoker who wanted to pull out of these threads thoughts that we didn't want to show on a forum about games.

[tactical]

Exactly what did I say about zombie that is incorrect? he was politely asked to not post in the dedications thread yet he did, and to my knowledge it did get shut down. What else? Oh yes, I am almost positive that he made a blanket statement that all soldiers are murderers. In addition, he said that the at the rate the US is going it would have been better if Hitler had won. Now the last sentence may not be exact, but very close, bottom line is something to the effect of wishing that Hitler won the war.

So no, half the things I said about Zombie are not incorrect. mabey what you consider "him provoking thoughtful questions", is what I consider "bullying"(at least that is how I feel the way he went about it), but that part is my opinion. Now, everyone has their own opinion, what you and I see may be different(even if we see the same thing we may have different versions of what we felt happened), but the FACTS in my first paragraph are not incorrect, at all.

[Moderator Sinister]

Let's not rehash old problems.

[DocD]

Not to rehash...but tactical is very correct. I was there and remember it well.

Not to rehash anything....but if the man is right he is right.

[tactical]

Thank you DocD, let the truth come out :)

[V-Disc]

It is too bad a person can’t go to the Axis & Allies forum and find any topic about A&A revised that is possible without having to search for them. I know when this forum was busy it was very crowded and the sub-topic places were not a bad idea.

So I propose that if people want to post about a tournament, or results, or their gaming group ideas, what tank was best, alternate ideas, or anything related to A&A revised their post not be moved. This is what attracted many people to this site, the quick availability of opinions and ideas in one place.

I understand the need to make sure threads are free of offensive material, etc. But let the topics stay, what does it hurt???




I think my esteemed colleague raises some good points. This forum exists to discuss and also promote the playing of A&A {well...among other boardgames}. While the categorization of posts certainly makes sense; I'm not entirely sure it serves the purpose of promoting gameplay. I think that over-categorization may actually serve to discourage newcomers from joining the discussion. Most newcomers post questions in the general category anyway. Are we going to tell that player/new member, looking for opponents, that they've posted in the wrong section? Not exactly rolling out the welcome mat!

As far as rehashing old business...the less said the better!

As far as "bullies" on the boards? Well...we can discuss the meaning of this word or that. But I do think the "squeaky wheel" principle may apply here! It seems, in some cases at least, that if one raises enough of a fuss you're going to attract some attention. Come to think of it?...kind of brings to mind this former member of the forums....oh yeah...the less said the better.

I think the moderators of this forum are doing a fine job. How are you going to keep everybody happy? An impossible task! Keep up the good work.

[Moderator Sinister]

thanks for the comments.

Since the rec room and house rules and play-by-post went up we've had a HUGE increase in new people asking questions. Sure it's the same old newbie questions but I'm happy to answer them. This is the BEST oppertunity to welcome people to the boards. I've even had a couple people tell me that they send a pm to new people welcoming them to the boards, that is super! I think that in the past there was alot of apprehension on the part of new posters to figure out where to post, what to read ("is this official revised material?") and the popularity of many posts where pushing question to the bottom of the page or the next page. Now people are getting there answers almost as soon as they post AND the rule PMs my way have gone down dramatically.

Don't misunderstand our intentions as creating a file cabinet atmosphere. We've created several rooms latley and have a couple more clean-up and promotion ideas we like to try but we aren't looking to figure out where every single post needs to go. It's classifieds, A&A (revised and wwII), house rules, rec room, and of course all the other fine games this site supports.

Some people felt like the A&A forum would die when the house rules forum went on line, to tell the truth, even I was worried but it's become a great place for new people to start and then move on to other discussions.

[nerdx]

I am Iron Man! Just kidding. I'm Nerdx.

[tactical]

Nerdx,
As rude as this sounds, I don't suppose you could find another board to go to? Have you even played or seen this game? I have yet to see 1 post that has an
a)a serious answer to a question?
b)a serious question?
c)a statement that pertains to AH, A&A, Wizards,TSR or WWII in general?

Let me know if you can answer any of these questions honestly

[series]

Wow that's cold tactical.

[tactical]

Series,
Yes, after reading my post, it does seem a little mean but nerdx has turned this whole site into a grafitti(sp?) filled spam area. Every thread I go into is filled with worthless sayings. Once in a blue moon, cool. Once in awhile, well, okay. Almost every thread, c'mon, show some decency.

P.s. I tried to get your rank promoted, but they took away the ranking system entirely, so i am not going to send that letter to AH. Too bad, you were up in the polls when I left it ;)