Team AR takes on DocD and Vollick1979

[AxisRoll]

DocD & Vollick with the Axis is a bid of $5. Russia starts out tonight.

Hopefully this will be a AAMC rated game.

[Vollick1979]

Well I don't really have problems this being any type of game as long as it's enhanced 2.1 :D

[axis_roll]

How are you splitting up the $5?
who gets what $$$$?

[axis_roll]

Please PM me your email address for dice rolls and maps as I will be doing Russia 1... thanks!

axis_roll

[AxisRoll]

Who's your daddy... Kids are gone. The bottle is out... Time to Kick some Axis Ass

[AxisRoll]

DOCD and Volick, I need your emails and I will get Russia Started.

[AxisRoll]

Scratch That, I was able to get them here on the Boards. I will email shortly.

[axis_roll]

Not so sure about our reputation as being the EVIL twins....
but Team AR is coming for Vollick and the Doc.....

[AxisRoll]

Darth Vader and The Emperior... I can hear the music now...

[Vollick1979]

Well in lieu of the Doc I guess it falls on me. Give 1 to Germany and 4 to Japan. I'm not sure how we are going to exchange emails, but it seems you guys have set something up. If one of you could PM me with the details on how this 2 vs. 2 game is going to work that would be great.

[AxisRoll]

I got emails, R1 on the way

[axis_roll]

I don't think it could get any worse for UK1:
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Game # 191 - UK 1 - Wed Mar 02 13:51:44 EST 2005


Anlgo-egypt rnd 1: 3 Inf 1 Ftr vs. 2 Arm
Attacker Defender
3 Inf(1): 1*34
1 Ftr(3): 5
2 Arm(3): 3*2*

Total Hits: 1 Total Hits: 2


Game # 191 - UK 1 - Wed Mar 02 13:51:49 EST 2005


Anlgo-egypt rnd 2: 1 Inf 1 Ftr vs. 1 Arm
Attacker Defender
1 Inf(1): 2
1 Ftr(3): 4
1 Arm(3): 3*

Total Hits: 0 Total Hits: 1


Game # 191 - UK 1 - Wed Mar 02 13:52:33 EST 2005


SZ 59 rnd 1: 1 DD vs. 1 Trn
Attacker Defender
1 DD(3): 6
1 Trn(1): 3

Total Hits: 0 Total Hits: 0


Game # 191 - UK 1 - Wed Mar 02 13:52:38 EST 2005


SZ 59 rnd 2: 1 DD vs. 1 Trn
Attacker Defender
1 DD(3): 5
1 Trn(1): 1*

Total Hits: 0 Total Hits: 1


Game # 191 - UK 1 - Wed Mar 02 13:52:53 EST 2005


SZ 45 rnd 1: 1 SS vs. 1 SS
Attacking Subs Defending Subs Attacker Defender
1 SS (2): 6
1 SS (2): 1*
1 SS hit

Total Hits: 0 Total Hits: 1 Total Hits: 0 Total Hits: 0

[Me 262 Schwalbe]

Oops. So much for statistics! :D
But what happened on R1 and G1? I'd like to follow this game.

[DocD]

Yeah me too!! :)

Hey guys, sorry I've been alittle busy today. I will send out J1 tomorrow night hopefully.

Can somebody post the map to what has happen so far?

For those of you playing at home....Vollick and I are Axis.

[Vollick1979]

axis_roll your UK1 deserves it's honourable place in the Bad Luck thread:

http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=4020

[Vollick1979]

http://img85.exs.cx:81/img85/9951/screenshot0076dh.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

[pagan]

Let's see how the AR boys bounce back from this little set-back.

[AxisRoll]

we are discussing a change in plans. I was unavailable last night. but i think i will have to do the rolling for us for a while.

[Vollick1979]

I know TeamAR took a real stinger with UKC but is UKN that hard to figure out? I don't know if Doc has recieved UKF yet but I sure haven't. ;)

[pagan]

Vollick smells blood in the water....

[AxisRoll]

I just finished UK1F. Turn 1 for UK sets the stage for the allied war and with what happened we have had to rethink our goals. Were talking 3 rds or so. (2 some degree) We will be fine. The allies can handle more bad luck than the axis.

[axis_roll]

I know TeamAR took a real stinger with UKC but is UKN that hard to figure out? I don't know if Doc has recieved UKF yet but I sure haven't. ;)
contrary to internet rumors, Team AR does have lives outside A&A Revised!

REALLY!

[Vollick1979]

Those damn internet rumours! I wonder who keeps spreading them?

[AxisRoll]

No way, I come with the out of the box rules.. I am the power of the Dice!

[axis_roll]

I know TeamAR took a real stinger with UKC but is UKN that hard to figure out? I don't know if Doc has recieved UKF yet but I sure haven't. ;)
How long does it take to do J1???

It's been like 2 days....;)

[Vollick1979]

Japan isn't my department, but perhaps if Doc had recieved UK1 in a timely manner he would have been able to start it when he had the time! ;)

[cousin_joe]

Hey guys, how about posting the NA picks, and maybe some more maps :)

[axis_roll]

USSR has T-34. Germany took the best option: Panzerblitz. UK took Colonial Garrison.... it's J1 now.

Not much to see except that UK was forced to place it's IC in Australia due to poor troop execution of orders.

[DocD]

Japan 1 done. American/Chinese forces revenge UK bad dice! Japan not where it wants to be.

[axis_roll]

I never got a combat move or final map for Japan... please email those

[AxisRoll]

DOCD we need to know OOL. and UK2 will be done.

[cousin_joe]

Hey guys, we need some maps here :)

[Vollick1979]

http://img229.exs.cx/img229/130/screenshot0098yl.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

Oh yeah and the Non-Aggression Pact is still in place. :confused:

[AxisRoll]

Well it is UK2F, The allies have bounced back quiet well.


http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDB2Fw.jpg

[AxisRoll]

Here is the east view.

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDB2Fe.jpg

[cousin_joe]

Okay, someone's gotta answer me this... HOW IN SAM BLAZES DOES THE US GET AN INFANTRY INTO MANCHURIA ON US 1?!?!? :eek:

That US INF in China should be dead after J1!!! What happened???

[pagan]

Its just bad-luck, in my opinion.

If japan does not get average results in asia on J1, then it spells doom on J2 if they do not have the TNs or units to drop back on asia in defense. Usually FIC is the country lost.

Had Uk went with India for the IC, then Japan's chances (seeing no tranys for J2) are grim. They would have to fight multiple rounds to regain and hold kwang+manch.

But since UK does not have an IC on india, Japan owns the pacific - Japan will be ok. Germnay will keep USSR from sending more units and Japan should get 1 of the 2 VCs in the pacific.

I have played Japan many times, its normal to me...(shrug) ; Vollick & DocD are doing just fine. Japan losing the entire mainland by J3 just sucks, bacause its a LONG road with LOW funds!!! (21IPCs....then 24 for awhile.....then 27.....then 24 again.....)

Anyone playing Japan should expect to fight to hold onto their 3 mainland territories, and be HAPPY if they can!.

[axis_roll]

Okay, someone's gotta answer me this... HOW IN SAM BLAZES DOES THE US GET AN INFANTRY INTO MANCHURIA ON US 1?!?!? :eek:

That US INF in China should be dead after J1!!! What happened???
Japan attacked with 5 inf, 1 ftr on J1 against 2 inf and ftr.

My opinion, serves him right. :)

[axis_roll]

If japan does not get average results in asia on J1, then it spells doom on J2 if they do not have the TNs or units to drop back on asia in defense. Usually FIC is the country lost.

Had Uk went with India for the IC, then Japan's chances (seeing no tranys for J2) are grim. They would have to fight multiple rounds to regain and hold kwang+manch.

But since UK does not have an IC on india, Japan owns the pacific - Japan will be ok. Germnay will keep USSR from sending more units and Japan should get 1 of the 2 VCs in the pacific.

I have played Japan many times, its normal to me...(shrug) ; Vollick & DocD are doing just fine. Japan losing the entire mainland by J3 just sucks, bacause its a LONG road with LOW funds!!! (21IPCs....then 24 for awhile.....then 27.....then 24 again.....)

Anyone playing Japan should expect to fight to hold onto their 3 mainland territories, and be HAPPY if they can!.
UK had a horrendous turn 1.
Dropping the IC in India was risky at best. If I were Japan, I would've taken it on J1 for sure. Sure USSR could've taken it back (and did) on R2, we were afraid of the already existing 2 *** transports (J1). In hindsight, sure, placing the IC in India would've been a slam dunk. But on UK1 end of turn, it sure didn't look as rosey for the allies as it does now (only 1 *** tpt in Hawaii)

Two big battles were taken to put Japan in such dire straights: ftr on tpt (both hit) and UK bomber on 2 tpts, sub. UK made up for a poor turn 1 attacks by sinking these three ships and surviving.

[DocD]

Japan attacked with 5 inf, 1 ftr on J1 against 2 inf and ftr.

My opinion, serves him right. :)
You know roll, I was thinking of talking Vollick into a concession, but you just bought yourself a whole can of whip-(edit)!!!

If you remember, it was a great and wonderful NA called BANZAI that should have led the Imperial forces to Sinkiang.

You guys cried all over the board when UK got the shaft in round one....sorry I didn't show my feelings like that.

[Me 262 Schwalbe]

You guys cried all over the board when UK got the shaft in round one....sorry I didn't show my feelings like that.

DocD, it's just a matter of relative deprivation I guess :D

[axis_roll]

You know roll, I was thinking of talking Vollick into a concession, but you just bought yourself a whole can of whip-(edit)!!!

If you remember, it was a great and wonderful NA called BANZAI that should have led the Imperial forces to Sinkiang.

You guys cried all over the board when UK got the shaft in round one....sorry I didn't show my feelings like that.
hmmm. I don't think I CRIED all over the board.

I stated that I got shafted. That was a statement of pure fact. I computed the odds of what happened to UK. It was less than .001 %, probably even less. UK1 was the result of 3 batles going awry. You had 1 battle go awry.

YOUR odds were a little higher.

I posted the results, stated the fact, and we scrambled to adjust with UK1 non-combat.

Your turn to scamble and adjust :)

[Vollick1979]

.001%? You lost in Egypt 3 inf, 1 ftr vs. 2 tanks. You lost a Ftr vs. a Transport and lost sub on sub. I find it really hard to believe that those battles listed are as nearly impossible as you describe.

Even if your situation was more rare but it doesn't mean it was more devastating. Japan is getting racked over the coals right now after losing 5 infantry against USA's 1 infantry loss. Your bad luck came in places that were possible to deal with. Japan's are much more dire.

[axis_roll]

.001%? You lost in Egypt 3 inf, 1 ftr vs. 2 tanks. You lost a Ftr vs. a Transport and lost sub on sub. I find it really hard to believe that those battles listed are as nearly impossible as you describe.

Even if your situation was more rare but it doesn't mean it was more devastating. Japan is getting racked over the coals right now after losing 5 infantry against USA's 1 infantry loss. Your bad luck came in places that were possible to deal with. Japan's are much more dire.

Mr. Stats... why have you not done the math? I was waiting for your confirmation.

Rechecking my 'work':
I multiplied the outcome percentage (meaning what actually happened using my dice calc/sim) times the outcomes of the other three battles. You neglected to say that in the DD vs tpt, I lost and the tpt lived (.15) Same thing with the sub, I missed and the *** sub hit (.40). I think I over stated the bad odds in AES: only getting 1 hit in AES (and w/d with ftr) s/b (.12). I had only looked if I had run to the death with the ftr before (neglected to add the odds od w/d, which is what ended up happening)

Multiplying .15 * .4 * .12 = .007.

[axis_roll]

...it doesn't mean it was more devastating. Japan is getting racked over the coals right now after losing 5 infantry against USA's 1 infantry loss. Your bad luck came in places that were possible to deal with. Japan's are much more dire.

Hmmm... if the battle was so important, why were more power units not then added. India was a mere bonus for Japan. Japan took 2 inf, ftr AND bomber on 1 inf. Overkill, IMHO.

yet China was only attacked with 5 inf and a ftr. Granted, Bonzais were employed....(in both battles)

My point was: If it's so devastating to lose china, then decrease that risk.

Of course, hindsight is always 20-20.

The game is far from over. Germany is (as usual in Enhanced) doing well. Japan certainly can bounce back quickly. We eagerly await Japans turn.

[Moderator Sinister]

Mr. Stats... why have you not done the math? I was waiting for your confirmation.

Rechecking my 'work':
I multiplied the outcome percentage (meaning what actually happened using my dice calc/sim) times the outcomes of the other three battles. You neglected to say that in the DD vs tpt, I lost and the tpt lived (.15) Same thing with the sub, I missed and the *** sub hit (.40). I think I over stated the bad odds in AES: only getting 1 hit in AES (and w/d with ftr) s/b (.12). I had only looked if I had run to the death with the ftr before (neglected to add the odds od w/d, which is what ended up happening)

Multiplying .15 * .4 * .12 = .007.

This is why I could never play you guys...I play like han solo...I never want to know the odds.

[axis_roll]

This is why I could never play you guys...I play like han solo...I never want to know the odds.
:)

Funny!

I computed these odds after the fact since they all went awry at the same time.

[Vollick1979]

Mr. Stats... why have you not done the math? I was waiting for your confirmation.

Rechecking my 'work':
I multiplied the outcome percentage (meaning what actually happened using my dice calc/sim) times the outcomes of the other three battles. You neglected to say that in the DD vs tpt, I lost and the tpt lived (.15) Same thing with the sub, I missed and the *** sub hit (.40). I think I over stated the bad odds in AES: only getting 1 hit in AES (and w/d with ftr) s/b (.12). I had only looked if I had run to the death with the ftr before (neglected to add the odds od w/d, which is what ended up happening)

Multiplying .15 * .4 * .12 = .007.

I don't happen to have a odds calculator that can spit out chances for each result and to calculate the odd for the Egypt attack is not something i really want to do. Simulation is the easiest way to do it and yes you need a computer that can do 1000 trials or so to get accurate results.

I stand by my claim just because these are small numbers .007 is 7 times .001. It's really no different than claiming it was a 5% battle when in fact it was a 35% battle. ;)

I am interested though in obtaining a dice simulator that can adequately determine the liklihood of certain situations.

[AxisRoll]

R3F - MAps

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR3F1.jpg

[AxisRoll]

R3F part 2 of 4


http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR3F2.jpg

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[axis_roll]

I stand by my claim just because these are small numbers .007 is 7 times .001. It's really no different than claiming it was a 5% battle when in fact it was a 35% battle. ;)
I can not believe that Mr. Stats ACTUALLY just said that...

You were joking right? :)

Oh, yes, ok... good one !!! ;)

[newaxis]

Looks like the Axis are hosed.

[pagan]

Japan's loss of the mainland means that they will spend the entire game trying to get at least 2 of the territories back.

Japan cannot help Germany win anymore. (wining requires VCs!)

[Vollick1979]

I can not believe that Mr. Stats ACTUALLY just said that...

You were joking right? :)

Oh, yes, ok... good one !!! ;)

Oh believe it. There are only 3 things i don't joke about... Sex, Drugs and Statistics. ;)

[cousin_joe]

Axis looks like they're done for...

Chalk up another victory for the Dastardly Duo :)

Oh is there no one in Metropolis who can stand up to these two? :eek:

[Vollick1979]

Axis aren't done for yet! The Dastardly Duo have left open a crack in which I hope to exploit. There are a lot of questions I have about the upcoming events in this game and i'm not sure the rules adequately cover them.

[AxisRoll]

Well I hope you do take UK then we can play it out, cuz right now, it is over.

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDJ4F1.jpg

[AxisRoll]

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!



http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDJ4F2.jpg

[AxisRoll]

here we go again.

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDJ4F4.jpg

[AxisRoll]

so u do need a msg


http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDJ4F5.jpg

[AxisRoll]

IT is USA's Turn and big battles this rd.
1B on AA then 6 Transports. You Gotta Believe
4F 1S on 1Tr 1A/C 2F
What's my percentage on this?

[pagan]

Not bad there Axis.

This is gonna be an interesting finish for Japan & UK.

[cousin_joe]

This is going to be a tight finish actually...

Germany has plans of launching a Spring 1943 Sealion... USA needs to come to the aid of their Ally UK... Japan with a strong Navy but an army cornered into FIC...

It will be interesting to see what Germany does if they knock out UK :)

[cousin_joe]

So what happened?? :)

[AxisRoll]

My ISP had issues last night. it is all mapped out. Should be early this evening. post to follow.

[AxisRoll]

thats also why my maps are not showing up here.

[DocD]

I've got one game and none of them are my turn! :)

[AxisRoll]

OK, I have my internet working tonight. So expect USA to light up the skys...

[DocD]

Come on man!! I can't believe how good that damn diceroller treat you guys!!! That's crap man, total crap!!

I don't mind losing, but not when the diceroller is on the other team also!

[axis_roll]

Come on man!! I can't believe how good that damn diceroller treat you guys!!! That's crap man, total crap!!

I don't mind losing, but not when the diceroller is on the other team also!
Please tell me what battle went so much in our favor this last round for USA?

If you tell me that US should've lost a few ftrs in SZ 8, I would've said... so what? Those were expected losses...it just didn't happen

[DocD]

"the US should've lost a few ftrs in Sz8...so what?"

I'm noticing everytime you don't lose something in a battle, it comes back to bite the Axis in the AxiSS.

Also, Japan could have done alittle better in FIC. Face it man, you guys are getting better rolls than us, period.

[AllWeNeedIsLove.]

"the US should've lost a few ftrs in Sz8...so what?"

I'm noticing everytime you don't lose something in a battle, it comes back to bite the Axis in the AxiSS.

Also, Japan could have done alittle better in FIC. Face it man, you guys are getting better rolls than us, period.
no use in crying. dice are variable and can wreck the best made strategies. a couple more times of getting screwed with dice and you will probably get into lowluck.

i think the more games people play the more people will look towards lowluck.

if anyone is angered by dice and wants to play aare lowluck with me, i would love to try it.(sorry to spam this thread)

[AxisRoll]

This game was already over. I didnt see any hope even before USA's turn.

[axis_roll]

Also, Japan could have done alittle better in FIC. Face it man, you guys are getting better rolls than us, period.
Of course they COULD be better for you... or they could be worse.
Dice are a great source of pain and pleasure in this game.

Based on my dice sim, we actually did slightly worse than expected in FIC.

At least we didn't bomb our own ally....

[AxisRoll]

if you take risky battles, you open yourself up to wider dice hell.

[Vollick1979]

Well when the UK missed on the 3 AA gun shots that really opened the door up for the current situation (5 tanks in the UK). With the numbers i crunched 5 tanks being left is very close to being the most likely outcome (if the AA gun gets no hits).

What isn't shown on the map is my sub that attempted to block US and UK in sz 12. If my sub had gone undetected and was not destroyed by the Russian sub (1 in 6 chance)that was there (It was both detected and destroyed) I would have sucessfully limited the UK liberation force to 2 US infantry in Eastern Canada and 2 US fighters on the UK carrier in sz 12. But that's not the case. Still there is an outside chance of me holding the UK till G6.

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/46/screenshot0119ix.gif (http://www.imageshack.us/)

[pagan]

This is an excellent finish so far.

The whole balance of who's on top comes down to Uk5 --> R6

German SS in both sz9 & sz12 would have been a devastating blow to the allies.

[DocD]

This is definitely a nail biter true believers!!

With the UK limeys using themselves as 88 targets in a failed attempt to rescue the queen, the Axis hopes continue to flicker.
It now comes down to the US. If they fail to liberate London this round, the Allies will have some very tough choices to make....continue with a costly and time consuming liberation effort of Britian or go for the throat of the Japanese.

The Japanese Navy is still very strong and full of fight but must quickly put the British Pacific Navy out of its misery! A good showing in J5 will then force the hand of the US monster.

Who will win, who will lose, stay tuned true believers, as the diceroller serves up another YOUR FIRED!!

[AxisRoll]

so where is the Japs turn?

[DocD]

Japan's turn should be coming up very soon. When does your buddy come back from Vacation?

[squirecam]

no use in crying. dice are variable and can wreck the best made strategies. a couple more times of getting screwed with dice and you will probably get into lowluck.

i think the more games people play the more people will look towards lowluck.

if anyone is angered by dice and wants to play aare lowluck with me, i would love to try it.(sorry to spam this thread)

Ive discovered that in low luck games people still cry and dice whine. Its inevitable.

Squirecam

[AxisRoll]

Ok, a_r is back, we will have USA soon, we need to liberate UK! :)

[Vollick1979]

3 infantry, 1 tank, 2 fighters and a BB support shot attack the UK that is being defended with 5 German tanks.

1 fighter is shot down with the AA gun and the BB support shot misses. Germany ends up holding the UK with 3 tanks. Team AR is once again the victim of terrible rolls.

Germany shouldn't have captured with 5 tanks remaining. Germany should have taken a casulty or 2 (or 3) with the UK attempts to liberate. Germany should have been easily booted off by the USA liberation attempt. I guess all this was a result of the very successful German attack on the UK.

Now we'll see the magic of TeamAR, if they have any?

[axis_roll]

3 infantry, 1 tank, 2 fighters and a BB support shot attack the UK that is being defended with 5 German tanks.

1 fighter is shot down with the AA gun and the BB support shot misses. Germany ends up holding the UK with 3 tanks. Team AR is once again the victim of terrible rolls.

Germany shouldn't have captured with 5 tanks remaining. Germany should have taken a casulty or 2 (or 3) with the UK attempts to liberate. Germany should have been easily booted off by the USA liberation attempt. I guess all this was a result of the very successful German attack on the UK.

Now we'll see the magic of TeamAR, if they have any?
The was all set up by UK's futile attempt of 2 inf, tank, bomber against 5 tanks.

UK got no hits out of their 4 units, Germany went 4 for 5. :(

We are still in the game. We discussed a new plan based on these rather shocking developments ...

We'll try to make it interesting...

[pagan]

I always like to see these kind of exchanges.

We all knew it would come to a german invasion of UK, and should luck hold the game would be quite interesting.

So far german luck has held....

[axis_roll]

a few things:

1). I am not rushing Germanys turn.

2). What will Germany do with $71 and London in their back pocket?

3). I am not rushing Germanys turn

4). At least this is no 'standard' Revised game :) !!

5). I am not rushing Germanys turn

[Vollick1979]

You'll have the turn tomorrow night (April 20th). I have a good idea of what's going to happen but there are a few things i have to look closely at.

For the rest of you that are interested here is a big map of the European Theatre.
http://img245.echo.cx/img245/7373/g60za.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

[pagan]

germany is in such an ugly position, when you know that japan no longer matters in asia.

[Vollick1979]

Yes Pagan, the deployment of my German forces is not ideal but I wouldn't go so far as to say ugly. DocD still has 6 Japanese infantry that are primed up for their Banzai attack (too bad they are all stuck on Pacific islands). (Yes Doc that was a jab intended for you!)

The 71 IPC's Germany has will really come in handy.

[DocD]

Hey Vman, it's pretty obvious who's doing all the fighting on the Axis side (ME)!!! That's why I have so few inf left!

Why don't you help me out here!

[Vollick1979]

The only implosions that are occuring are due to your inept bumbling of the Pacific mainland. If it wasn't for me and my 20 tanks wrecking havoc the full brunt of the Allies would reduce your 6 infantry down to none and Japan would be eating dirt. As far as i'm concerned after I finish off the Allies i'm coming after you. Let it all be known here that DocZ, a lowly ape, would do a better job of playing Japan, then the monkey I have as a partner! I mean the ape would have at least forgot to SBR Australia the turn before I take the UK! Where's DocZ on this to back me up?

[pagan]

Uk jumble on Round 1...
Axis team feeling good...
Spread attack on J1, makes the axis a sour pair...
AR boys talking about a sweep...
SBR australia and then OPSL...
London falls along with AR faces...
UK liberation was renamed the UK anihilation...
AR boys getting hooked...
Japan owns pacific and can't get hawaii + australia...
Allies own atlantic and can't get UK...
Germany gonna get 'spread' to a defensive stand by USSR...
USSR is fine with everything so far...

.
Can't get this kind of thing with LowLuck
.

[AxisRoll]

DocD, with bad dice, in uk, you have gotten off the hook or else we would be threatining japan by now. we have 5 buildings in the asia.

but keep up the good work. ;)

[Vollick1979]

Uk jumble on Round 1...
Axis team feeling good...
Spread attack on J1, makes the axis a sour pair...
AR boys talking about a sweep...
SBR australia and then OPSL...
London falls along with AR faces...
UK liberation was renamed the UK anihilation...
AR boys getting hooked...
Japan owns pacific and can't get hawaii + australia...
Allies own atlantic and can't get UK...
Germany gonna get 'spread' to a defensive stand by USSR...
USSR is fine with everything so far...

.
Can't get this kind of thing with LowLuck
.

The game between TeamAR and DocD and Myself is a great one to promote the variability of AARE. A game like this just doesn't happen in AAR. This game has been so much fun to play. Every nation has experienced good dice and bad dice (some better or worse than others).

Just so you know Pagan, DocD has control of Hawaii (of course he has nothing on it because he only has 6 Japanese infantry on the entire board!) and is threatening Australia. :p

[DocD]

The only implosions that are occuring are due to your inept bumbling of the Pacific mainland. If it wasn't for me and my 20 tanks wrecking havoc the full brunt of the Allies would reduce your 6 infantry down to none and Japan would be eating dirt. As far as i'm concerned after I finish off the Allies i'm coming after you. Let it all be known here that DocZ, a lowly ape, would do a better job of playing Japan, then the monkey I have as a partner! I mean the ape would have at least forgot to SBR Australia the turn before I take the UK! Where's DocZ on this to back me up?
Are YOU saying you want a piece of ME??!!

You got it bub!!! Hurry up and steam roll your pansy Panzers through Russia and we will duke it out in the Soviet Far East baby!!!

[Vollick1979]

Will you have any land units in the Soviet Far East? Right now the closest infantry to SFE is the two sitting in the Philippines. Get real DocD. I'm carrying your butt.

[cousin_joe]

This just in...

In a surprising turn of events, the Axis, on the verge of world domination with Germany's recent conquest of England, totally self-destructs as Japan declares a TRUCE with the Allies and WAR on Germany!!! :eek:

There was speculation this would happen earlier on when Japanese Bombers unexpectedly bombed supplies and equipment heading to Germany from Australia ;)

[axis_roll]

This just in...

In a surprising turn of events, the Axis, on the verge of world domination with Germany's recent conquest of England, totally self-destructs as Japan declares a TRUCE with the Allies and WAR on Germany!!! :eek:

There was speculation this would happen earlier on when Japanese Bombers unexpectedly bombed supplies and equipment heading to Germany from Australia ;)
LOL!!!

:)

[AxisRoll]

I was thinking of extending that invitation. To change alliances...

[DocD]

I was thinking of extending that invitation. To change alliances...
Let's say for all of the Allies' IPCs for the next two rounds.....deposited into Japan's Zurich account. A very cheap offer indeed!!! :)

Anyway, for those of you watching at home....the Axis have reached a peak!
9VCs to the Allies 6....at least that's where it is after J7.

[axis_roll]

This has got to be the craziest game I've ever been involved in....

[cousin_joe]

Let's say for all of the Allies' IPCs for the next two rounds.....deposited into Japan's Zurich account. A very cheap offer indeed!!! :)

Anyway, for those of you watching at home....the Axis have reached a peak!
9VCs to the Allies 6....at least that's where it is after J7.

Hey, it's been a while since we've seen a map. How about a map at the end of US7?? How's Japan doing in the Pacific??

[AxisRoll]

here we are rd 8 the mess we call war
http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR8F1.jpg

[AxisRoll]

this is the 2nd map of 5

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR8F2.jpg

[AxisRoll]

this is the better side of the world. :)


http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR8F3.jpg

[AxisRoll]

still doing ok here... just the first slide is the rough spot.

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR8F4.jpg

[AxisRoll]

last one. USA getting the UK money. gotta like it...

http://2e4u.com/TeamAxisRoll/VDR8F5.jpg

[pagan]

USA...
--can do whatever they want (i assume pacific)
--hawaii + philipines (japan cant defend them both)

Japan....
--asia VC is out of possibility unless its an Allied gift...
--must keep usa honest or it can LAND-shuck with maximum ipc effort

Russia....
--russia can delay a LONG time

Germany.....
--aufweidersehen

[DocD]

USA...
--can do whatever they want (i assume pacific)
--hawaii + philipines (japan cant defend them both)

Japan....
--asia VC is out of possibility unless its an Allied gift...
--must keep usa honest or it can LAND-shuck with maximum ipc effort

Russia....
--russia can delay a LONG time

Germany.....
--aufweidersehen
What's this Pagan?? You writing off the Axis again??

I mind you to know that Vollick knows magic and an Axis victory is still very possible. :D

[pagan]

I never wrote the axis off a first time.

Axis can always have 'lady-luck' on thier side, of course.

[AxisRoll]

the axis has had lady luck. But I need to get out the HorseShoe and change some of that.

Or I will get the lady wacked. She is somewhere in UK.

[axis_roll]

Docd.. when can we expect a Japan turn?

[DocD]

Hey, sorry guys.

I've been busy trying to win my game with London.....anyway, I will get Japan out tonite or very soon there after.

[Vollick1979]

This game of ours is going to last a very long time. It's round 10 now and it doesn't look like this game of ours is going to resolve itself quickly.

[AxisRoll]

Well the Axis are taking there time. Not following long term game strategy (ltgs).

Allies win, but it will take a while!!! :)

[axis_roll]

10 days for Germany....
must be one hell of a plan ;)

Will we see Hitlers "Battle of the Bulge" soon??

[DocD]

Last time I spoke to Vollick he was extremely concerned about the turn of events. I could only give him my word that Japan would fight to the death!!

If I know Vollick, he's working on something.......

[axis_roll]

Last time I spoke to Vollick he was extremely concerned about the turn of events.
If I know Vollick, he's working on something.......
Rightfully so....

The allies had made some very strong moves to put the pressure on Germany. This was more of a ribbing versus a real complaint about how long it's taking.

This is a VERY important turn for Germany, that's for sure.

[cousin_joe]

How about a map update :)

[AxisRoll]

Allies are ready to finish off the axis. And no thanks to UK, the Bums...

[cousin_joe]

Wow... Let me guess, Tokyo, right ;)

[Vollick1979]

I believe AxisRoll was referring to Germany as the Allies are in no position to threaten Tokyo. The Allies are definantly tag teaming up on Germany but I don't share AxisRoll's opinion that Germany is finished.

[DocD]

I believe AxisRoll was referring to Germany as the Allies are in no position to threaten Tokyo. The Allies are definantly tag teaming up on Germany but I don't share AxisRoll's opinion that Germany is finished.
I Love You Man!!!

That's the laugh in the face of danger mentality I like to see!!!

[AxisRoll]

I am talking about... well i better not tip our hand... lol... soon you will see the force of the Dark Side... This game is over. Allies Fly.

[axis_roll]

UK has been liberated!

The Axis will need some huge luck to come back from this.

[DocD]

Vollick, where are you?? Fight, Fight for the Fatherland! $@!# you!!

[axis_roll]

Vollick, where are you?? Fight, Fight for the Fatherland! $@!# you!!
I think he realized the end is near and is on a plane to brazil.

[Vollick1979]

no brazil is too populated, i'm heading for Antarctica.

I'm resigning.

[axis_roll]

Team AR recovers from losing UK and remains undefeated!!!

What next team will try to defeat the Axis Roll twins?

[axis_roll]

I believe AxisRoll was referring to Germany as the Allies are in no position to threaten Tokyo. The Allies are definantly tag teaming up on Germany but I don't share AxisRoll's opinion that Germany is finished.
Hmmm....

In less than one month you turned 180 degrees....

[AllWeNeedIsLove.]

What next team will try to defeat the Axis Roll twins?
i would love to play team ar. i like ootb, lhtr, and of course aare.

i also prefer lowluck dice as there is less chance of me crying poor luck. but more likely it will be team ar left with no excuses.

[axis_roll]

i would love to play team ar. i like ootb, lhtr, and of course aare.

i also prefer lowluck dice as there is less chance of me crying poor luck. but more likely it will be team ar left with no excuses.
Did you get a partner?

Team AR only plays 2~vs~2 games.

And of course, it'd be Enhanced only.

[DocD]

Hey, wait! What about Vollick and DocD's Rematch??
What's that!?? You don't want a rematch!??

Come on, just cause we gave you a run for your money shouldn't disqualify us, should it?

[TrimChris]

Did you get a partner?

Team AR only plays 2~vs~2 games.

And of course, it'd be Enhanced only.

I'll gladly partner up. I haven't used any of the online A&A apps other than Triple A though.

[axis_roll]

Hey, wait! What about Vollick and DocD's Rematch??
What's that!?? You don't want a rematch!??

Come on, just cause we gave you a run for your money shouldn't disqualify us, should it?
Team AR fears no one.

The last I heard from DocD and Vollick was "UNCLE"

I imagine that Team AR should be able to handle two teams games at onec since I presently am not involved in any games at this time. The partner is out of town on business till Friday.. I'll try to get a response by then.

[AxisRoll]

a_r, you dont need to ask. Axis Roll!

[DocD]

I'm currently waiting on Vollick to respond to the rematch.

Seems he has been pretty busy of late so I'm not sure, but I will stay hopeful.

[cousin_joe]

I'd be willing to partner up with AWNIL. However, TrimChris offered first so I don't mind standing by either :)

[Vollick1979]

Hmmm....

In less than one month you turned 180 degrees....

I knew the UK battle (if it was going to happen) was going to be a close one, and I honestly didn't think you guys would go for a coin flip battle when you're clearing dominating the game. If the UK battle goes Germany's way I wouldn't have resigned.

I'm interested to know why you guys went for the UK?

[axis_roll]

I knew the UK battle (if it was going to happen) was going to be a close one, and I honestly didn't think you guys would go for a coin flip battle when you're clearing dominating the game. If the UK battle goes Germany's way I wouldn't have resigned.

I'm interested to know why you guys went for the UK?
In short:

"WHY NOT?"

we win the battle, we win the game.
if we fail to take UK, we reload and two turns later, try again.

As you say, we were dominating, so we had margin for error. A loss in that battle merely means the game goes on. Germay losing UK means game over. We flipped our coin for the win. We got lucky and heads came up.

Does that make sense?

[DocD]

Well, that was a good game. Vollick hasn't responded to my request for a rematch so I guess we will have to wait on that. I think he is tied up in alot of personal stuff.

Anyway, I'm not complaining of the way Vollick played the game, Lord knows his great play on London was a game saver, but I can only wonder if his refusal to sacrifice his beloved BB and tran in the Indian Ocean costed us the game.

I asked him to block the UK fleet for one turn with them to give me a chance to reinforce my fleet there. He didn't and I later lost like 30ipcs worth of Japanese DDs in a UK counterattack. A counterattack that probably would have never materialized if I had been given a chance to secure my fleet. (And I point out, Japan was paying for the war at this point of the backs of island natives only.)
I feel this is what ultimately costed us the war. Oh well, I'm not crying over spilled milk mind you....I'm just pointing out lack of cooperation between friends leads to destruction. Food for thought.

[axis_roll]

Well, that was a good game. Vollick hasn't responded to my request for a rematch so I guess we will have to wait on that. I think he is tied up in alot of personal stuff.

Anyway, I'm not complaining of the way Vollick played the game, Lord knows his great play on London was a game saver, but I can only wonder if his refusal to sacrifice his beloved BB and tran in the Indian Ocean costed us the game.

I asked him to block the UK fleet for one turn with them to give me a chance to reinforce my fleet there. He didn't and I later lost like 30ipcs worth of Japanese DDs in a UK counterattack. A counterattack that probably would have never materialized if I had been given a chance to secure my fleet. (And I point out, Japan was paying for the war at this point of the backs of island natives only.)
I feel this is what ultimately costed us the war. Oh well, I'm not crying over spilled milk mind you....I'm just pointing out lack of cooperation between friends leads to destruction. Food for thought.
I'd have to go back and see exactly what you're referring too...
The Japs were certainly on their heels for most of the game, that's for sure.

[DocD]

Sure Roll. Take a look at it and you will see. It was a turn or two after London fell. Your Uk fleet made its way through the Suez Canal and into the Indian Ocean. I took a substantial lost of ships after that.

[Vollick1979]

Doc i offered to block the fleet when it would actually do something! I can't remember the exact circumstances but i think i would have just been a speed bump (fighters and bombers take out my vessels and in non-com the fleets sail through!

I think my BB and transport allowed Germany to keep it's income up. The game was fun when i have more time i would love to get another team game going and DocD, if you're not happy with me as a partner I have a mystery partner that has already indicated an interest in teaming up with me to take on your and a partner of your choosing!

[DocD]

Hey, I never said I wasn't happy with you as a partner. I'm just pointing out one of your few mistakes. :)

I feel that the Roll Twins can be taken down, and I would love to team up with you again.....find the time soon, so we can get it on.

[axis_roll]

I feel that the Roll Twins can be taken down, and I would love to team up with you again.....find the time soon, so we can get it on.
Not to toot our own horn, but Team AR is practically unbeatable. Only bad dice can do us in.

We play off eachs others view of the game in progress so well, it's actually kinda scary at times.

[Moderator Sinister]

I still haven't played a PBEM game and don't understand all the tech side of things but I'd be willing to try a game with DocD as my partner. Us indiana boys should be able to womp on some people. Course I'm sure the competition here is a bit tougher than the students at the high school I work at.

[DocD]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Sinister. Get those AARE rules and Mapview up and running and we will see you on the battleField.

In the meantime I will be waiting on Vollick to get unbusy.