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gunhawk
09-18-2005, 06:46 PM
I've read that the 1st expansion will be out in December. I've also read (don't remember where) that it will be the "Russian Front". Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks.

Stojakovic
09-18-2005, 07:04 PM
Yes... I read that it is due dec. 7 and it has a Russian front theme to it

Stojakovic
09-18-2005, 07:10 PM
Here is a little bit more info that I have...

It will be a 45 miniature expansion... (I thought they were supose to be 48) there will be snipers, paratroopers, cavalry, chinese, polish, romanians. there will also be soviet's heavy IS-2 and T-34/85, german king tiger, and nashorn tank. expected to be out on dec. 7 (pearl harbor day)

hope some of you find this interesting or new

Rob Irwin
09-18-2005, 07:16 PM
Can't wait for the complaints to start... "Hey, there's only one Romanian rifleman figure... how can I field a Romanian army with that?!?"

LOL :)

Stojakovic
09-18-2005, 07:21 PM
haha... where did you hear that at...

Rob Irwin
09-18-2005, 07:24 PM
I'm making it up.

But I'm assuming that armies like Romania, etc, won't be very well represented in terms of troops and equipment (similar to Fraqnce and Italy in this version of the game), but it won't stop people - who probably haven't even played the game - questioning how they are supposed to field an army with so few pieces.

The answer being, of course, that they're not - they're meant to be additions to other, larger armies.

Commissar
09-18-2005, 07:28 PM
Can't wait for the complaints to start... "Hey, there's only one Romanian rifleman figure... how can I field a Romanian army with that?!?"

LOL :)

Waitaminnit! The next expansion isn't going to be called "Romanian Front"? The Romanians were so significant to the war the designers are basically CRIMINALS if they don't design a whole set around the Romanian army. If I can't field an entire Romanian force it basically isn't WWII! This sucks!

;)

Rob Irwin
09-18-2005, 07:29 PM
It'll happen - someone'll say it at some stage :)

PatrickWR
09-18-2005, 08:15 PM
How am I going to field my Polish Light Cavalry unit against a force of German panzers with only a couple Polish units released in the expansion!?!?! CURSES!!!! And I was so looking forward to getting slaughtered...

Rob Irwin
09-18-2005, 08:20 PM
Yes! There are no horses! For shame!

gunhawk
09-18-2005, 08:45 PM
For those who think there'l be complaints if incomplete units are produced that can't historically be combined with other units to make a viable force, you are absolutely and positively correct.

Rob Irwin
09-18-2005, 08:48 PM
No, I think people will still complain even if incomplete units CAN be combined with other forces, LOL :)

Muenchausen
09-18-2005, 10:09 PM
I'm complaining about the people who are complaining about the complainers who are complaining about the lack of ???????? Sorry, forgot about what I was complaining about.

Further more. Russia had the largest horse cavelry in WWII, not the polish. :)

CdtWeasel
09-18-2005, 11:27 PM
Also dont forget the germans had a ton of horses in their military early on, granted must were pulling carts.

I do hope the poles get at least 4 pieces. (7tp tank, TKS tankette with 20mm cannon, Infantry (preferably armed with the indiginour BAR variant) and a commander) I do doubt that they will give more than 1 rare to the Poles or Romanians. (anyone got an idea what tank the Romanians may get?)

Rob Irwin
09-18-2005, 11:30 PM
Will the Romanians necessarily get a tank? Some signs suggest, yes, but can we be entirely sure? What if the Romanians are all Infantry figures, for example?

panzerfaust666
09-19-2005, 12:29 AM
Forget the romanians, i am waiting with baited breath to play a game of chineses vs japanese infantry...it sounds so thrilling...do you think they will make one infantry for Chiang Kai-shek's forces, and one for the communists?

Hopefully the expansion after that will centre upon french morrocan troops....it all sounds so thrilling.......

God forbid that Avalon hill bring out more tanks/ us/uk/german paratroopers/ SIG33's, the dreaded 88mm, serman firefly's in the next expansion...they might actually be selling us what we want.

NewtonCain
09-19-2005, 05:05 AM
How about lend lease for the Russians? M4A1 any one?

Vulturedoodle
09-19-2005, 07:02 AM
It will be a 45 miniature expansion... (I thought they were supose to be 48) there will be snipers, paratroopers, cavalry, chinese, polish, romanians. there will also be soviet's heavy IS-2 and T-34/85, german king tiger, and nashorn tank. expected to be out on dec. 7 (pearl harbor day)
Some of these choices, I agree, are very questionable. Why are we seeing a King Tiger before a Panzer MkIII? Cavalry? Did someone on the design team get suckered into the Polish Cavalry-Charge myth? If we want Cavalry, we can just use infantry...I mean, c'mon, cavalry had for the most part been fighting dismounted since the American Civil War.

Regards,
Steve F.

Stealth
09-19-2005, 07:03 AM
I'm complaining about the people who are complaining about the complainers who are complaining about the lack of ???????? Sorry, forgot about what I was complaining about.

Further more. Russia had the largest horse cavelry in WWII, not the polish. :)


In an effort to derive more mobility in their army, the Russsians mounted great numbers of men on horses, thus creating a cavalry force.

Wanting to better their eastern neighbors, the Polish cavalry force cut off the feet of their horses and mounted wheels...

(A bit of Polish humor there, and I'm of Polish descent, so no complaining, you!)

-Stealth

Autarch
09-19-2005, 07:56 AM
Can't wait for the complaints to start... "Hey, there's only one Romanian rifleman figure... how can I field a Romanian army with that?!?"

LOL :)

Yeah, they should include other Romanian equipment that the infantry can abandon like when the Red Army began to encircle Stalingrad...

:)

DocD
09-19-2005, 10:58 AM
Some of these choices, I agree, are very questionable. Why are we seeing a King Tiger before a Panzer MkIII? Cavalry?

Regards,
Steve F.
I'm sure steve this is strictly marketing more than anything else. Every WWII game buff and grognard will be craving to have a King Tiger to field and Wizards know this.

As far as calvary, again, Wizards appear to be modeling AAM after ASL and plan on trying to be as inclusive as possible with the diversity of units. Expect motorcycles and Partisans in an expansion to come.

Plagued
09-19-2005, 11:04 AM
I'm sure steve this is strictly marketing more than anything else. Every WWII game buff and grognard will be craving to have a King Tiger to field and Wizards know this.

As far as calvary, again, Wizards appear to be modeling AAM after ASL and plan on trying to be as inclusive as possible with the diversity of units. Expect motorcycles and Partisans in an expansion to come.


I want my Mk III's, damnit. How can I do DAK if I have to sub a bunch of EW IIs, and LW IVs...?

Major Adler
09-19-2005, 11:18 AM
there are Chinese in the Russian Front expansion!...why?...I hope that is bad info...

I figure the Romanians and Polish will take up 6 of the 45 units...so 39 units remaining to do lots of East front stuff...hope to see stuff like...T34/85 , JS1 , SU85 , SU100 , partisans , guards , sniper , Cossacks , Naval infantry...and...Tiger II , JagTiger , Hetzer , JagPzIV , StugIII , PzIII ,...to mention a few...

Adler...out.....................

Stojakovic
09-19-2005, 02:40 PM
How about lend lease for the Russians? M4A1 any one?

I second that ;)

Zhukov
09-19-2005, 06:59 PM
Hmmm i know i have to start playing this game now, reading these posts it sounds awesome.