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rockistruth
11-04-2005, 05:01 PM
what was the name of that russian burp gun? that thing was amazing. i hope they come out with a mini of it. anybody know what its effective range was?

Horst
11-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Was it this:
PPSh 41 - 7.62mm Soviet Submachine Gun - Burp Gun ? (http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/ppsh41.html)

WotC Bob
11-04-2005, 05:14 PM
I know that in Call of Duty 2 (and COD, COD:UO for that matter), that huge clip made it fun to use. (:

Sergeant Rock
11-04-2005, 07:06 PM
How many hordes are there in a Russian Platoon? I've heard the
round canister-type clips were 'noisy' and the bullets rattled a lot.
Hence the use of smaller straight clips on SMG's in the other armies.
But what's a little noise when the Germans get stonked with a Russian
human wave assault? The rockets were probably crashing in at point blank range too...

Stojakovic
11-04-2005, 07:08 PM
Was it this:
PPSh 41 - 7.62mm Soviet Submachine Gun - Burp Gun ? (http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/ppsh41.html)

Hey... I have one of those guns :D I got it years ago from my dads friend

wakko_kookies
11-04-2005, 07:49 PM
Yeah! The PPSH HUGE CARTRIDGE!
Special ability,

-superior close range assault-attack value of 15 against infantry
-2x attack per turn
-Unlimited defensive fire


But no long range.-just sits on the T-34 tank and kills of the sniper. :D

2ndSS-Kampfgrupe Peiper
11-04-2005, 08:42 PM
I've used that gun in CoD mentioned earlier and those ability's make it sound like some super soldier... :)

Stojakovic
11-04-2005, 08:49 PM
Ok you got me into video games... any one play day of defeat?

WotC Bob
11-05-2005, 12:22 AM
I play DOD: Source sometimes, but I finally got sucked into BF2, so I've been playing that lately.

wakko_kookies
11-05-2005, 05:18 AM
Used to play DOD:Source but there are no good servers in my country already...
Now, I'm back to DOD 1.6

Waffen-ss
11-05-2005, 12:18 PM
The PPSh 41 - 7.62mm Soviet Submachine Gun - Burp Gun was good at point-blank or short range. beyoned 20ft it is horried. I know as I own one ( class 3 weapons permit). I have fired it a lot it is a good weapon just sucks at range. :cool:

Waffen-ss
11-05-2005, 06:14 PM
"Well now that you mentioned it" the MP 40 is a much better weapon ( as well as the Thompson and for that matter the sten gun ).
Understandably the burp gun was rushed into service to counter the sheer firepower that the germans had. So for that, and at the time it was a good weapon. But given a choice ( which they were not ) , give me and MP 40 any day.
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Careos
11-05-2005, 10:08 PM
I was one of the early team members for DoD. I'm not sure, but in their first release, alot of the sounds were my actual guns.

I also used to be the mod leader of Experience WW2 for BF1942. However a mutiny forced me out of my own mod...ain't powerstrugges wonderful?

wakko_kookies
11-05-2005, 11:17 PM
MOD LEADER!??
I used to play BF1942 but now I only play Forgotten Hope.
Btw...FH's loading time on my comp is about 5 min

Oh yeah...winner decides history...now XWW2 is lame and dead :(

Danyel Phelps
11-06-2005, 12:28 AM
XWW2 died when BA took control of the mod. He has no concept of realism, and he has told me directly over Teamspeak that he wants only for the mod to be "cool," sacrificing realism in order to compete with FH.

XWW2's researchers are jokes, with a combined I.Q. of a toddler and a half. They have coding in the mod that makes certain maps completely one sided (They have the PAK 40 AT gun behaving as the Panther's gun, for example)

The mod's golden days were when Careos was managing it. Careos got things done in a timely fashion. As soon as they booted him, look what happened. It took them over a year to get out the next release, with most of the work having even been done while Careos was in charge.

XWW2 is a perfect model of how not to preserve WWII history in digital format. I mean my God; they have a Korean War vehicle on a few of their maps that they refuse to fix. I believe the official statement was something along the lines of:

"We'll fix it as soon as you fix it for us."

I dare say this game that we play with plastic miniatures on paper boards is more accurate than that digital failure.

rockistruth
11-06-2005, 02:49 PM
yeah, thats the oe. and if you have a squad of troops armed with it firing full auto, somethin has to hit somebody.

Y2UAsk
11-07-2005, 11:18 AM
One MP40 may be better than one PPSh-41, but its fine mechanical qualities diminish in importance when it is faced by five PPSh-41s.

Steve

Le Poilu
11-07-2005, 11:23 AM
One MP40 may be better than one PPSh-41, but its fine mechanical qualities diminish in importance when it is faced by five PPSh-41s."Quantity is its own quality."