To&e

[komichido]

Anyone begun to put together platoon, company or battalion size units?
I have easily enough units for several different platoon level units. I would like to put together two opposing platoons and pit them against one another in a campaign type battle. Not throw them all against each other, but carry out several smaller battles and reinforce as necessary. Perhaps develope a veteran status for certain surviving squads.

I am thinking of a mechanized platoon, a tank platoon, an infantry platoon and perhaps an artillery battery as a full battalion like force. (yes I know this is not what constitues a battalion, I just have to work with what I have)

Anyone else thought of this or started to develop anything along these lines?
If so share with us please.

Komi

[SSG lathrop]

Im building Panzer Units. 1 Battalion of Heavy Panzers Tigers, King Tigers. 2 Plt's of Panzer 4,s 1 company of Panzer Grenadiers, 1 Battery of Artillery. I cant wait to get all of this stuff. Pete


1.Heavy panzer Battalion 1942-1943

2 companies organized into 2 plts of 4 heavy tanks and 2 plts of 4 or 5 medium tanks. 1 command tank for HQ. HQ section 2 tanks support company 1 engineer plt. 1 recon plt of 4 light tanks. 1 AA Plt of 4 or 5 AA Units.

2.
1 company of panzer Grenadier
3 Plts of Halftracks 3 Halftracks per PLt. 1 Command Halftrack.HQ plt of 3 halftracks. Combat support section MGX3 with halftracks. 1 AA section of 2 guns. 1 mortor section 2 halftracks.

3. Panzer Plt.
Elite units had 5 tanks per Plt. Regular Plts had 4 tanks.

4. Atry Battery
3-4 guns per battery. Self propelled guns were 6 guns per battery.

Hope this helps you all. Pete

[protevangelium]

Anyone begun to put together platoon, company or battalion size units?
I have easily enough units for several different platoon level units. I would like to put together two opposing platoons and pit them against one another in a campaign type battle. Not throw them all against each other, but carry out several smaller battles and reinforce as necessary. Perhaps develope a veteran status for certain surviving squads.

I am thinking of a mechanized platoon, a tank platoon, an infantry platoon and perhaps an artillery battery as a full battalion like force. (yes I know this is not what constitues a battalion, I just have to work with what I have)

Anyone else thought of this or started to develop anything along these lines?
If so share with us please.

Komi


I've been working on putting together, for the Germans at least, a mechanized (Panzergrenadier) company, a SS Panzergrenadier company, and a Wermacht infantry company. One infantry unit (rifle) generally works out to a squad, and same goes with several heavy weapons. I tend to treat machine-guns as individual weapons crewed by several men.

I'm trying to find a booklet I have on WW II TO&Es, but I can't seem to find it. I did, however, find this interesting site done by a Japanese man on Japanese armored and infantry forces: http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/

He disputes the use of the Type 1 Ho-Ni as a tank destoryer. He points out that it was organized along the lines of an artillery unit, and thus was a self-propelled gun and not a tank destroyer. A WOTC faux pas?

[AndrewW]

Andras has put together a few. Try a search for his posts.

[Bobsalt]

Yes. I played a Stuart Platoon (Stuart x6) against a German force the other night in a 150-point game. He had 4 Pz III's, Pz IIF, Pz IIC, and a Carro Armato as his armor. I also had some SMLE's, 2 Humbers, and an Inspiring LT; he had various other German infantry - other than the Carro, we used pure German vs. British forces.

It was a slaughter.

The Stuarts were all over him, and with the All Guns Blazing his infantry was almost gone by the end of turn 2. We rolled up TIger Heaven as the map, so there was little cover for either side. On turn one I got a disrupt on every Pz III. Then next turn he used smoke to preserve his armor, but, as I said, his infantry was practically wiped out. On turn 3, he socred some hits, but I got a damage or kill on every Axis armor except the Pz IIF. Game Over.

I was actually going to post this to see how other player's early war battles went. He didn't do anything wrong that I could see - the Pz III's were just outclassed against the Stuarts. The extra point of armor for the Stuarts was a bigger factor tyhan the one extra attack dice for the Pz III's. We plan to replay it with a switch of sides (by then I'll have the 2 extra Pz III's I got off of eBay so we can play pure platoons on each side. Frankly, after seeing the results of this one, I'm not sure how competitive I'll be.

[Raptor]

Personally I would love it if Avalon Hill brought out company level unit packs, even if they were fairly expensive ($50+).

[Type-A]

I have an old Command Decision book "Armies of the Second World War", this edition was published in 1994. It covers French, German, Italian, Japanese, Polish, British, US, and Soviet Infantry, Mechanized, Armored, etc. divisions from 1939 to 1945. Looks like it will translate nicely for AAM with allowances for the support forces that are generally not relevant.

Check this out, a Japanese Tank Division (evidently they raised 4 of them). The main part of each division was a single tank brigade.

Tank Brigade, with:

HQ Co.
1 command med tank
1 recon type 95 light tank
1 staff radio truck

3 Tank regiments, each with:

HQ Co.
1 command med tank
1 recon type 95 light tank
1 staff radio truck
1 MMG
1 Light Truck

Light Company
2 Type 95 light tanks

4 Medium Tank Companies, with:
2 medium tanks

These are the notes about the Japanese Tank Divisions, 1941-45

1. Four tank divisions were raised, all sent to Manchuria. In 1944 the 4th Tank Division was sent to the Philippines.
2. Tanks: Medium tanks could either be Type 89 or Type 94, Type 97 (ah, the good old Chi-Ha) or Type 97i, depending on the year. Companies were made up of like models.

We already have the light and medium tanks to make up a brigade. Just need a staff radio truck and light truck.

It doesn’t reference their sources for the information, but it sure is nice to have it all organized with all the different type and year for so many of the WWII armies.

[Photoner Hawkwind]

I have an old Steel Panthers Computer Game that lists Section, Platoon and Company size units for all years and nations participating in WWII. I use this to build formations for units that I want to play.

[cossackwarrior]

I have an old Command Decision book "Armies of the Second World War", this edition was published in 1994. It covers French, German, Italian, Japanese, Polish, British, US, and Soviet Infantry, Mechanized, Armored, etc. divisions from 1939 to 1945. Looks like it will translate nicely for AAM with allowances for the support forces that are generally not relevant.

Check this out, a Japanese Tank Division (evidently they raised 4 of them). The main part of each division was a single tank brigade.

Tank Brigade, with:

HQ Co.
1 command med tank
1 recon type 95 light tank
1 staff radio truck

3 Tank regiments, each with:

HQ Co.
1 command med tank
1 recon type 95 light tank
1 staff radio truck
1 MMG
1 Light Truck

Light Company
2 Type 95 light tanks

4 Medium Tank Companies, with:
2 medium tanks

These are the notes about the Japanese Tank Divisions, 1941-45

1. Four tank divisions were raised, all sent to Manchuria. In 1944 the 4th Tank Division was sent to the Philippines.
2. Tanks: Medium tanks could either be Type 89 or Type 94, Type 97 (ah, the good old Chi-Ha) or Type 97i, depending on the year. Companies were made up of like models.

We already have the light and medium tanks to make up a brigade. Just need a staff radio truck and light truck.

It doesn’t reference their sources for the information, but it sure is nice to have it all organized with all the different type and year for so many of the WWII armies.
The Japanese did not raise any Tank DIVISIONS, but rather raised Tank Regiments with companies of three tank platoons, each platoon of 4-5 tanks (Type 97 or Type 89) and one Light Platoon of 5 Light tanks or tankettes (Ha Go or Te Ke).

There were also several Independent Tank Companies, each of 3-4 Tank Platoons of 3 Tanks (Type 97 or Type 89) and one Light Tank Platoon of 4-5 Light tanks or tankettes.

The Ka Mi was actually a Naval tank assigned to the SNLF units.

At teh beginning of the war the Japanese tank crews were very good and had extensively studied Guderian and Rommel's writings. The problem was they werew also deeply steeped in the Bushido code and on several instances in China when they outran their supplies the crew dismopunted and fought to objectives successfully but with great loss.