German Strategies

[Red Shirt Ensign]

I think its the new developers intention that the German player should use the navy instead of treating it like cannon fodder...

My current thoughts are to buy a baltic destroyer 5 inf 2 art and 1 tank R1. and deploy from the baltic in R2

Another alternate is to build an IC in France to make a fleet (Yes its out there and I need to playtest it!)

This way I can resupply/retake norway if needed and then also move to the atlantic to threaten The UK Home fleet. I also have to luftwaffe (With Atlantic Sub) the gib BB to help my Med fleet. There are good odds if you take out GIB BB the Suez DD will move to India to support its CVBG which is outgunned by the *** Fleet in the Indies

I Intend to attack Cau using the med fleet amphib assault with Ukraine

not compelte but a primer for conversation!

[F. SolanoLopez]

Jawohl! At last something for the Reich!

Not completely sure about the 'developers intention' but if AAE is any indication the German navy does have a bigger role to play. - But then again the continent just got a whole more interesting, too.

Good luck with the IC in France. Wasn't going to go that route myself -considering it's a rather big investment and not necessarily of great benefit. Is Norway really that important? Who knows. Give it a play and get back to me.

A drive toward's the Caucusus however, certainly seems in order. - Especially now that a UK IC in India seems to be standard Allied procedure. That and a little punishment for the other UK territories should give Japan some Lebensraum.

[pagan]

My line of thinking is a 2 round build up for germany. only minimal combat, except for all out strike in North Sea. Germany's goal should be all of AFRICA at the end of round 4 WITH the ability to throw more troops in.

I think a build-up may allow germany to weather the 3 prong rush. Japan in this course has to be QUICK. probably an IC in the south and use its navy to pester africa if USA doesn't want to play. Otherwise defend waters and process 2 armies one south asia and one north asia.

Germany navy needs to be 'active' in mediteranean. Its all about owning at least 1, maybe 2 tranys for taking sudan round 2+. Africa round 1 I'm thinking fortify with 1 trany. build a carrier with instant planes? (seems unfeasable) kill gibraltor BB? stay away from destroyer at suez canal... send everythign you got (minus 1 sub) into north sea and kill UK fleet. that leaves your land forces to pull back and fortify. planes need to be able to hit anglo/sudan so landed in S.E. (not sure of course)

OR rather than a carrier, go with an IC in france but either way these thigns need to be done on G1. I'm leaning for CAR or IC(16/15) and Trany(8) and INF. But if Uk brings their fleet through canal you are screwed if you didnt buy a carrier. Only other thing I see is somehow taking Lybia on amphib so they cant get through, but then how to deal with BB in gibraltor ? <i dont know>

G2 is build more inf and assault anglo/sudan

G3 tanks & inf build and go with the flow.

suggstions anyone ?

[ March 10, 2004, 04:38 AM: Message edited by: PAGAN ]

[V-Disc]

I proposed the following German 1st turn in a post I began {New Game/Industrial Complexes} -

1 IC {placed in the Ukraine}; 5 INF; and 2 tanks.

The IC purchase/placement dependent{heavily} on what Russia does. My take on Germany includes taking out the Russian Army the highest priority. A stable supply line to that front is a must. A key to taking out Russia is capturing Caucusus and that IC. If Germany takes the Caucusus; Russia is in a world of hurt. Germany building a IC of it's own on the Russian front might be worthwhile.

From Dan's post

I think its the new developers intention that the German player should use the navy instead of treating it like cannon fodder... Well said..and I concur. But how does Germany make the move{s} to start taking on the British navy? I considered buying a pair of Subs, then moving the starting pair into the channel in hopes of drawing out the British fleet. I'll admit to being stumped. I like your thinking on this though. I had not considered a Destroyer as an option.

I'm usually the Axis player in my group. The new game presents some interesting choices/challeges.

the cav

[Red Shirt Ensign]

I've posted about strategy for Russia, Germany and UK today here:

http://boards.avalonhill.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000372

[DY]

I want to try out my strategy which involves no commitment to fleet.

I figure the UK will quite possibly lose 2 aircraft if it hits the German Baltic fleet (assuming you'll likely get 2 rolls @ 1 and 3 rolls @ 3). This makes me think the CV is unnecessary.

A G1 DD for the Baltic is a possibility, but again, I welcome the attack as it is.

I am thinking 13 infantry on G1 (saving 1 IPC). I think its probably sub-optimal for the Soviets to hit Ukraine, but they may do it (but I'll enjoy smashing their tanks on the front in pay back), so I'll assume I only have 5 fighters and a bomber.

I think Egypt is a must hit. That fighter and tank need to die.

I was thinking 1 sub and 4 fighters against the Gib BB and using the BB to knock out the Med DD (is it worth commiting a fighter to make sure you don't get really unlucky and lose the BB?).

I'd then hit Egypt with the bomber, 2 inf, 1 art and 1 tank.

I figure you can safely walk in to Karelia and depending on how much Soviet stuff is in the Ukraine, work out whether or not you can afford to "waste" a fighter attacking the Med DD (along with the BB).

If you still hold Ukraine, then i think you should definitely commit a fighter against the DD (since you now have 6 and a bomber).

I've also thought about buying a Med tranny G1, and buying say 10 inf, instead of a purely infantry purchase on G1.