200 pt game (no stukas...weep, weep)

[Lotus]

200 pts

Axis:
sIG 33
SSPG x 6
WO x 1
Panzer IV Ausf. G
Tiger I
Panther

Allies:

Easy Eight
M4A1 Sherman x 2
T-34/76
M3 Stuart x 2
Humber x 2
Vickers x 2
Cavalrymen
Screaming Eagle

Played on:
Able 1/Baker 1
Charlie 2/Dog 1
Objective on hill in middle of map

Axis won...I think it should have lost. (I was Axis, my son was Allies)
Axis Losses: Panzer IV Ausf. G, 3 x SSPGs, WO
Allied losses: everything by turn 7 except damaged M4A1 Sherman

Am I right or wrong and why?

[jiminy_fatal]

It all comes down to luck.. in the end... really...

[RaidingParty]

Why do you say Allies should have won? Did the Axis have good dice rolls or good strategy?

Looking at the armies, I can see how the Allies lost. The Axis is pretty well-balanced, while the Allies are way behind on anti-tank weapons. Also, the T-34 is a big waste without someone to ride it.

[Lotus]

Why do you say Allies should have won? Did the Axis have good dice rolls or good strategy?

Looking at the armies, I can see how the Allies lost. The Axis is pretty well-balanced, while the Allies are way behind on anti-tank weapons. Also, the T-34 is a big waste without someone to ride it.

I thought the Allies had decent armor but the problem was they played both ends of the map. Had they concentrated on one side, my "Fort Apache the Bronx" hillset might have been in trouble.

Allied rolling could have been better. Axis cover rolls were pretty good. But so were Allied cover rolls. Only the panzer and 2 shermans fought in the open at the beginning of the game. After that it was pure cover for tanks.

Axis did not go for the objective until turn 5.

[horacus]

Well, here are the armies that I used yesterday, they were 200pts, I was the CCCP player.
Germany's army:
Tiger1x2 123
SSPGx5 25
SSHFx1 7
Brumbarx1 22
Mauser Karx2 6
Pak40x1 14
Total:200pts

CCCP's army:
T34/76x2 56
T34/85x2 66
KV-1x1 32
PPSH-41x9 27
Cossak Capt.x2 18
Total:199pts.

It was a hard battle, I lost my KV-1 and 1 of each T34 models, I also loose 5 of the 9 PPSH-41 but the Captains and almost half of my armour survived tanks to a lucky roll of a T34/85. My friend loose first the Brumbar by an attack by the rear made by a T34/76 and his pak40 tanks to the KV-1, the PPSh-41 were too may for the SS-Panzergernadiers, 5 agains 9 with the support of a T34/76 with a Cossack Captain on him. After being triying during 4 turns, the first Tiger falls, and the second became dammaged tanks to a T34/85 who was destroyed in the 6th turn. The german's made in the turn 7 a las desperate movement with the 2 remaining SSPG, but the 4 SSPH-41 defend the objective and won finally, it was very very funny, and the Tiger's rolls were pathetic the first 3 turns.
At the end, those were the armyes:
GE: one damaged Tiger, SSHF, 2 mause kar and a SSPG.
CCCP:T34/76 damaged, T34/85, 2 Cossack Capt., 5PPSH-41.
Lucky rolls and first to arrive to the objective, thats why I win after almost 3 hours....

[horacus]

Sorry, only 4 of the 9 PPSH-41 survived.