Set III

[A&Aaddict]

Ok i know it this subject has been brought up but what are the nationalities going to be in set III.

Here is my prediction after looking oon the preview box.
Chinese
French
Soviet
UK
US
Germany
Italian
Japenese
Romanian

this is my prediction (with some evidence)
Please post your prediction

[Canuck_Captain]

you forgot Australian :)

cant wait till the end of march!!

[Remember-OWS-]

Australian
French
Soviet
UK
US
Germany
Italian
Japanese
Romanian

No Chinese included, and It was confirmed

[A&Aaddict]

well sssssssooooooooooooorrrrrrrrryyyyyyy (sorry)

Thanks i was just about to bet a guy some money that there would be Chinese

[Joisey]

Which means no Flying Tigers in Set III, which means that if they include a Japanese Zero its not going to have anybody to fight. P51 deployment in the pacific was limited.

[Mr_G]

Which means no Flying Tigers in Set III, which means that if they include a Japanese Zero its not going to have anybody to fight. P51 deployment in the pacific was limited.

They sould have released a corsair, not a mustang

[Remember-OWS-]

Well... Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooon'T take it like that!!! :eek:

What did Chinese got to fly anyway?!?

Dragon!!! :D

[Mr_G]

Well... Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooon'T take it like that!!! :eek:

What did Chinese got to fly anyway?!?

Dragon!!! :D

I'm going for Da Vinci's flying machine :)

[Avoll]

I'm going for Da Vinci's flying machine :)

now that would be a rare

[cossackwarrior]

The Chinese (Kuomanting) air cover was provided by the "famed" Flying Tigers, the AEF using P-40 Tomahawks and B-25's.

[Redgar]

Aaaaaaaaddddddddddddiiiiiittttttiiiiiiooooooooooon nnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy: "China also imported... a small number of Stuka, Junkers, Heinkel and Messerschmitt aircrafts" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-German_cooperation_%281911-1941%29)

Anyway, just my 2 ep worth,

Redgar

[bauer]

where was it confirmed that there are no Chinese in Set III? It sure looks like the chinese symbol on the front of the box. Compare pics of Set II box front and Set III box front.

[A&Aaddict]

look "junior" you dont no nothin

Just kidding:D
i compared they proved me wrong

[jeff1981]

flying tigers were technically not chineese, they were an american volunteer group.

[jeff1981]

flying p40's

[pellulo]

Hi, does anybody have the stats of defense, movement &, attacks (pic. of cards/model not necessary, for group five, much less the naval minis), thanks, Pellulo

[Vulturedoodle]

Hi, does anybody have the stats of defense, movement &, attacks (pic. of cards/model not necessary, for group three, much less the first two groups), thanks, Pellulo
Referring to the two new vehicles, and speculating on their identity, the following real life stats apply. There may be some inaccuracy...I'm doing this from memory.

StuG III (Ausf A-E, B was most common)
Type: Assault Gun
Year: 1940
Armament: 75mm L/24
Armor: 50mm (front)
Speed: 40 km/h

SU-85
Type: Tank Destroyer
Year: 1943
Armament: 85mm (D-S5)
Armor: 50mm (front)
Speed: 48 km/h

Regards,
Steve F.

[simonr1978]

flying tigers were technically not chineese, they were an american volunteer group.

Actually you're wrong. Members of the AVG had to resign from the US Armed Forces and joined the Chinese Nationalist Armed forces, this was a legal technicality to get around the fact that they could be tried for murder as civilians, the US itself was not involved in the war when the AVG was first formed, so the only way around it was to join the Chinese Army.

[basiaderek]

How many models in set 3. will it be 45 like set 2 or 60?

[Richter von Manthofen]

I think I saw 45 at the AAm homepage.

[Redgar]

where was it confirmed that there are no Chinese in Set III?

Here: http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=7749&page=2&pp=10

Hope this helps,

Redgar

[bauer]

Thanks for the link Redgar,

I hate to be a bother but has anyone looked at the Australina flag that was flown in WWII? It is not even close to the nationality flag they are showing on the front of the Set III booster. I am having a very hard time believing that Australia will be its own Nationality when they fought in the war as a member of the U.K.

I really want to see a few more Chinese pieces to make it at least a playable army.

[Redgar]

Thanks for the link Redgar,

No problem! Always glad to help a fellow player...

I hate to be a bother

Suuuure you do... ;)

but has anyone looked at the Australina flag that was flown in WWII?

Alas, I have not. A pic or link would be cool :p

It is not even close to the nationality flag they are showing on the front of the Set III booster.

I'll believe you sight unseen; IIRC there was a discussion over this a while back. These aren't flags, but rather nationality logos (the Canuck logo is the Maple Leaf, rather than the Red Ensign, for instance), and I believe that the logo will represent "ANZAC" forces (though the real ANZACs were renamed post-WWI), rather than just Australia, so WotC wouldn't want to tick off New Zealanders by having only the Aussie flag...

I am having a very hard time believing that Australia will be its own Nationality when they fought in the war as a member of the U.K.

Before someone bites your head off, I suggest looking at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Army

and especially this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Army

Saying Australia fought as a member of the U.K. is like saying the Canadians fought as members of the U.K.. The Aussies EARNED their separate command twenty years before WWII (at Gallipoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gallipoli)), as we Canucks did at Vimy Ridge. Please don't insult a fellow Commonwealth members by suggesting they are 'just' a "member of the UK".

I really want to see a few more Chinese pieces to make it at least a playable army.

Me too! How about some Allied Sdkfz 222's... ;)

Anyway, just my 6 ep worth,

Redgar

[bauer]

I'll believe you sight unseen; IIRC there was a discussion over this a while back. These aren't flags, but rather nationality logos (the Canuck logo is the Maple Leaf, rather than the Red Ensign, for instance), and I believe that the logo will represent "ANZAC" forces (though the real ANZACs were renamed post-WWI), rather than just Australia, so WotC wouldn't want to tick off New Zealanders by having only the Aussie flag...

You don't think it would tick off Commonwealth members to imply that Australia and New Zealand fought independantly of them?

I have not been able to find any info on the "ANZAC" symbol except that it is a Kangaroo made from the letters V and B. Any links to alternate pics would be appreciated.


Saying Australia fought as a member of the U.K. is like saying the Canadians fought as members of the U.K.. The Aussies EARNED their separate command twenty years before WWII (at Gallipoli), as we Canucks did at Vimy Ridge. Please don't insult a fellow Commonwealth members by suggesting they are 'just' a "member of the UK".

I thought we earned our own command in the Boer War.

I should have said they all fought as members of the Commonwealth. The United Kingdom only includes Britian, Wales and Ireland or at least part of it. I never said 'just' a part of the U.K. nor did I mean to insult any Commonwealth members (I am Canadian). Australia and Canada were still members of the Commonwealth during WWII. We fought for King and Country.

Here is the link to Australian flags.
http://www.ausflag.com.au/ausflag/bhist.html

Indeed Canada and Australia had there own command but to suggest we were not DIRECTLY influenced by the Commonwealth command is a little crazy. Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Australian Navy. They would not have been able to use the word Royal if their allegiance was not to the Commonwealth.

Just my 2 Canadian cents worth

[Raphael]

Indeed Canada and Australia had there own command but to suggest we were not DIRECTLY influenced by the Commonwealth command is a little crazy. Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Australian Navy. They would not have been able to use the word Royal if their allegiance was not to the Commonwealth.
Dude, "Royal" as in both countries are kingdoms.

[KampfgruppeMarkus]

Dude, "Royal" as in both countries are kingdoms.


Raphael,

Are you saying both Canada and Australia were kingdoms during WWII? Or from the use of the word 'are', still are kingdoms?

[Vulturedoodle]

I should have said they all fought as members of the Commonwealth. The United Kingdom only includes Britian, Wales and Ireland or at least part of it.
Forgot Scotland. And yes, I know it's part of Great Britain, but so is Wales...just don't want to see anybody left out. :)

--SEF

[fifleche]

Dude, "Royal" as in both countries are kingdoms.Uhhh... No. Show me the King/Queen of Canada, please. Like, I've been living in this country for over 30 years and I just discovoered we are a kingdom!

:p

Seriously, tho, the Queen of Canada -IS- the queen of the UK.

[Remember-OWS-]

We do have a good representative of the Queen in Canada... The Governor!!!