Vanguard and Defensive Fire again

[Modern Major-General]

I know you answered this previously, and quoted the rulebook as well.

However, there is this part on defensive fire, page 21: "Defensive-Fire Limit: A given unit can make only one defensive-fire attack per phase." Since Vanguard ability occurs before the first turn, there are no phases. So, either units get no D-F attacks or they get infinite number. :)

I would suggest the no defensive-fire occurs as a result of Vanguard "movement". One can look at it as not movement, but simply re-deploying your unit after both players have set-up. (Although, if both players have units with Vanguard, then I don't know how to handle that one.)

[Y2UAsk]

I don't see why allowing defensive fire in response to a Vanguard move would lead to infinite defensive fire. For the purposes of Vanguard, treat it as if it's happening in a special "Vanguard phase" before the first turn.

As to what happens if both players have Vanguard-capable units, that's a good question. At this point in the game, things are still occurring according to the coin-flip initiative. Whoever wound up as the First Player after the coin flip would make his Vanguard move first.

Steve

[Modern Major-General]

Ah, a "Vanguard" phase. Or something. Maybe a different name, should you guys come up with other abilities that take effect before the first turn.

The defensive fire and Vanguard would probably come up in scenarios. With the six standard maps, at least five hexes will always separate the two opposing armies. So the tanks with speed of 4 and a road bonus could only move right up to the front hex of an enemy unit, but not provoke defensive fire since it could not go further.