The new map revealed!

baron · 02-26-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Der Panzinator:
Arrghh.. Where's my confounded magnifying glass. Can't read the territory names....

I dig the compass and map theme watermarks.

Forget the territory names, let's see if we can get a closer look at the advertisement that FarsideHobbes posted. There are two setup cards sitting right out in the open. What better source of fodder to hold us until next week's column.

Speaking of which, I'm sure next week's column will be about initial setup. What else could change the nature of every game we play?

Interestingly, I've been a fan of, or at least neutral on all of the graphic design elements revealed so far, but I had a strong negative reaction looking at the map. Fortunately, I'm already accepting and starting to like it, and the picture of the actual map looks much better than the computer reproduction.

I still disklike the orange Japanese pieces though.

Overall though, well done. I applaud all of the layout changes made.

Scott

Mike Selinker · 02-26-2004, 11:12 PM

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Arrghh.. Where's my confounded magnifying glass. Can't read the territory names....

Click on the image of the new map, DP. You'll get a full-screen image.

Glad you guys like it.

Mike

elbowmaster · 02-26-2004, 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by Der Panzinator:
At last the new map is revealed. After 5.2 seconds of examination I like it....

can you say refresh...!! i like the new board, it does appear to even have some space

eager to get the new revised game as soon as its out...!!

will any of the next articles contain the set ups for the rest of the countries??

plus the trailer to next weeks article raised an eyebrow from me [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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I'll discuss the biggest change we made to Axis & Allies, one that will change the nature of every game you play.

the 6 areas that matter section did seem to have an allies are gonna whoop bootie on the axis theme

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If the Japanese violate the Russo-Japanese non-aggression treaty, they won't get many IPCs for their efforts.

is this a rule??? how long is the treaty and who violates who???

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A new optional rule allows the Soviets to take advantage of the Trans-Siberian Railway and shuttle defenses to the Japanese border much faster.

ok..ok...map week...

-cheers

-elbowmaster

baron · 02-26-2004, 11:29 PM

!!!!

The Russians can build a mediterranian fleet now!!!

That's going to be an interesting potential dynamic.

Scott

[ February 27, 2004, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: Moderator John ]

baron · 02-26-2004, 11:37 PM

Now, I'm going to put a big diclaimer on this, because I can only sort of read the numbers on the map, but it looks like the layout of UK territories and their IPC values are identical to the original game values. I only bring this up because in article 3, Mike said that they tinkered on the edges of the UK when laying out their IPCs.

Am I missing something?

Scott

Der Panzinator · 02-26-2004, 11:38 PM

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!!!!

The Russians can build a mediterranian fleet now!!!

That's going to be an interesting potential dynamic.

Scott

The Black Sea Fleet. I wonder if the initial setup has maybe a destroyer or a transport for Russia in the Black Sea?
I suspect that the Caucusus will be quite a battleground between Germany and Russia. Since its worth 4 IPC's and has a complex.

[ February 27, 2004, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Moderator John ]

elbowmaster · 02-26-2004, 11:40 PM

the uk insignia is kinda confusing, looks like england is connected to ireland???

unit placement there as well???

im sure its covered in the new rule booklet...

-cheers

-elbowmaster

Einstein43 · 02-27-2004, 12:25 AM

Yeah that confused me for a minute, looked like they were going back to the NOVA game map that had a land bridge between Ireland and UK. What they have done here, though, is cleverly obscure the straits between Northern Ireland and the UK, so that players will not think they have two territories where only one is intended. Basically, if you have units in Northern Ireland they are considered to be in the UK, and vice versa, and if the UK is captured by the Axis, so is Northern Ireland. It is all one Capital territory.

Eire itself, however, is neutral and impassable territory.

Thats what I think, anyway.

Einstein

[ February 27, 2004, 02:26 AM: Message edited by: Einstein43 ]

ButchOHare1 · 02-27-2004, 12:35 AM

Sweet option you might have overlooked in all the excitement....

USSR trans-Siberian railway! 2 MPs for infs in the East. Anything that slows down Japan in the North is great.

Splitting Eastern Europe, Ukraine, and Caucasus into north and south territories is great. This will create a lot more movement and dynamic game play!

And of course adding the Midwest to USA was a huge improvement. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Talonz · 02-27-2004, 12:42 AM

I'm not so sure if I like the bold colour scheme, it looks less of a map and more of a 'gameboard' to me. Miss the roughed in terrain markings as well.

On the other hand, every other change to the map is brilliant imo. Getting rid of the shuck shuck (well not without exposing the transports more anyways), breaking up the eastern front, more impassable terrain areas, more focus on the pacific for Japan and the US, defocus on the russian eastern territories, etc etc.

So where it really mattered...Good job!

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elbowmaster ELBOW{M}E{M}BER Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: "boogerland" Posts: 1,000	the uk insignia is kinda confusing, looks like england is connected to ireland??? unit placement there as well??? im sure its covered in the new rule booklet... -cheers -elbowmaster __________________ the EVIL BERT and FRIEND...

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02-26-2004, 11:29 PM	#4
baron Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 97	!!!! The Russians can build a mediterranian fleet now!!! That's going to be an interesting potential dynamic. Scott [ February 27, 2004, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: Moderator John ]

02-26-2004, 11:37 PM	#5
baron Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 97	Now, I'm going to put a big diclaimer on this, because I can only sort of read the numbers on the map, but it looks like the layout of UK territories and their IPC values are identical to the original game values. I only bring this up because in article 3, Mike said that they tinkered on the edges of the UK when laying out their IPCs. Am I missing something? Scott

02-27-2004, 12:25 AM	#8
Einstein43 Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: washington dc Posts: 97	Yeah that confused me for a minute, looked like they were going back to the NOVA game map that had a land bridge between Ireland and UK. What they have done here, though, is cleverly obscure the straits between Northern Ireland and the UK, so that players will not think they have two territories where only one is intended. Basically, if you have units in Northern Ireland they are considered to be in the UK, and vice versa, and if the UK is captured by the Axis, so is Northern Ireland. It is all one Capital territory. Eire itself, however, is neutral and impassable territory. Thats what I think, anyway. Einstein [ February 27, 2004, 02:26 AM: Message edited by: Einstein43 ]

02-27-2004, 12:42 AM	#10
Talonz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 86	I'm not so sure if I like the bold colour scheme, it looks less of a map and more of a 'gameboard' to me. Miss the roughed in terrain markings as well. On the other hand, every other change to the map is brilliant imo. Getting rid of the shuck shuck (well not without exposing the transports more anyways), breaking up the eastern front, more impassable terrain areas, more focus on the pacific for Japan and the US, defocus on the russian eastern territories, etc etc. So where it really mattered...Good job!